Do you need to do this to be a credible endgame player?

[raginbull]

This was originally posted on the gamefaqs FFXI board a few months ago. The question asked was, Do you need to have killed fafnir/nidhogg to be considered a credible endgame player? While the general response was that you don't have to, a few people who haven't said that killing one of them is one of their ultimate ambitions in FFXI. I think you do personally. It's not the difficulty of the fight, it's the exclusivity of it. On each server only a very small number of linkshells have the capability or ability of even claiming it. It's the numbers game - a lot of players can do stuff like sky, sea and dynamis, which are respectable achievements but only a select few, aka the big boys, the elite, camp faf/nid. That they are still seen as a big deal (Faf is always on the highlights of the BG frontpage update for example) four years after being introduced to the game is another thing that convinces me.
I welcome your opinions on this, the legends' especially.

[savageboy]

to be a skillful endgame player? no to be a credible endgame player? yes

[Demosthenes11]

Killing fafhogg is like winning a scoring title in the NBA; you feel good that you have done it, but you will still be considered nothing unless you do the harder shit aka timmy/Baha2 etc(win an NBA championship)

[Kwijiboe]

Typically on our server if you show up to aery on your first week you'll end up getting Nidhogg somehow. This will eventually cause a lot of drama and deaths and end up with no abjurations since you forgot that once you claim, you need to know how to kill it.

[alphacat]

Killing Nidhogg.... or any HNM at all, is no sign of whether you are a good player or not. Most of the times it has more to do with getting the claim than getting the kill.

I know the most retarded people in HNM LS's that have gotten almost every HNM title in the game, but having a title doesn't magically make you a skilled player. Kinda like how getting a college diploma doesn't make you smart, just look at our fearless President.

[Baha]

to be a skillful endgame player? no to be a credible endgame player? yes

Agreed, and I'm looking forward to the crazy analogies people will make to reword this.

[Sera]

Faffxi or gtfo.

[Naygor]

More often than not. If you're in endgame you're probably camping faf and he's not exactly difficult.

[Sera]

once you claim, you need to know how to kill it.

Shhh, don't tell people this! I love to see raged Fafhoggs, all those bodies...
You keep telling people shit like this and you'll ruin the REAL fun of the game.

edit: RYKO STOP POSTING ON MY ACCOUNT OR ILL FUCKING KILL YOU SRSLY

Double edit: STOP SPAZZING AND DONT GET YOURSELF BANNED JEEZ

triple edit: you better stop or i'll make you sleep outside with the darkies

Quad edit: Bitch I got like 6 inches and 300 pounds on you, only person sleeping outside is some caucasian wimmenz if she pipes up.

P.S. really no you're totally gonna get banned, save yourself.

quintedit: i hate you ryko ; ;
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...27/Camocat.jpg

Sextedit: well 1) lol sext 2) Yeah I get that a lot.

[Naygor]

What the meow is going on here?!

[Panella]

I killed fafnir years ago when few LSes even showed up to camp kings. I didn't really find it overly impressive. Guess I'm missing all the feel good epeen wagging when your ls bot claims over the other 200 people in the zone ._.

[Naygor]

That response was in no way an answer to the question.

[alphacat]

Quite frankly, the only title worth a damn is from Absolute Virtue nowadays. Even that isn't very impressive. I personally think it takes more work to get the Astral Candesence recovery title than anything else.

[Sera]

Quite frankly, the only title worth a damn is from Absolute Virtue nowadays. Even that isn't very impressive. I personally think it takes more work to get the Astral Candesence recovery title than anything else.

That's cute, no one was asking what you thought was the most epic thing ever, just a basic recognizable bare minimum.

edit: god damn it ryko, you're making me look bipolar

Double edit: And the truth shall set you fuckin freeeeeeee
triple edit: hey, any more out of you kunta, and you'll be a chubby black doormat soon, maybe if you're nice i'll leave the porch light on
Quad Edit: I'm tellin you, look at me funny and I'm taping you to the puking cat and the faulty gayass lameshit wireless router and you're all getting tied to a train track. Top hat, cape, curly moustache and all. How does it feel to get fucked twice? Once by villainy and once by the muthafuckin man?

[Naygor]

Reading comprehension is hard

[Heian]

Reading comprehension is hard

I can't even comprehend wants going on in vent normally

[archibaldcrane]

Having participated successfully in the worst example of FFXI endgame should not be a judge of one's character.

[Sera]

Reading comprehension is hard

Do they teach you that at Princeton?

[Naygor]

Nah, they just teach you how to be a man at that school.

[Sera]

Having participated successfully in the worst example of FFXI endgame should not be a judge of one's character.

Yeah because we should totally base it on putting up with unpatched sea or salvage or einherjar.

Face it, if you're not doing kings chances are the best you're touching is sky and frankly "ZOMG THE RMT ARE CLAIMING DESPOT" is a joke. Turtlejockeys are a joke, KB is laughable, Faf is the first difficult fight in this game, and that term is fucking looooooose.