Abjs: Buy HQ if possible? (Especially for harder to obtain o

[The Stig]

Abjurations, I'm in line/point range to get some from Sky. I'm starting to wonder, especially with some of the more popular/high demand Abjurations (in my thought, this would be the Abjs such as W.Legs, N.Body, A.Hands, E.Body, A.Body etc) is it worth to invest in the HQ versions of the cursed gear rather than the NQ.

From what I see it's just that because it is technically an "obtain once" item (even though you can reobtain them, but in the process you kind of screw the others waiting for it, unless it goes free lot and such), especially with the rarer ones that require camping Kings/HNMs for. I didn't throw D.Body on that list as from what I've heard and seen when my LS it drops like candy (we had 2 Double D.Body drops from Kirin so far, with total D.Bodies mounting to about 12. All of them went freelot essentially, as we are an all-BST shell with very few MNKs/NINs/SAMs).

I just personally don't want to go through the process again. I am looking at The Cursed Cuisses personally (W.Legs) right now as one of the Abjs I want to get. Is it worth to go HQ on that? NQ costs 15k and HQ goes for 1.8m.

[Grif]

HQ doesnt make you go faster. Never understood people who would blow gil on a wortheless item but lolwhitebox.

[Kiro]

I enjoy my whitebox gear. I have a few 'spare' aquarian abjurations in my MH that'll I'll use if I run across some cheap -1s out there. But.. most of the stats aren't really worth the 15-20M price tag. But, yeah, whitebox. /shrug

[Bkbahamut]

When i got E hands so long ago, for some reason i was determined that I wanted the HQ of them...i didnt uncurse them for awhile after having, cuz i was searching and searching and did some tries with a JP 103 Smither to HQ them, which was a no go. But finally I found a JP who was selling them for 20mil, i talked em down to 15 and bought. Remember this was way back when 15Mil was actually possible to make if your not a crafter, just still took awhile, but it definitely broke me, at the time Juggernaught was going for like 12mil, so yes i had sold that, which I had got the drop off Overlord, and LS gave to me, yes Im an asshole I ended up selling it like 3 months later when I realized man/joy is better. But yeah, dinging 73 and putting on Armada Mufflers was cool, but at the moment with deflation of everything, 15mil now would be like................. 1mil in RL XD, good thing i quit lol.

To answer your question, no the stats arent worth the extra millions, but HELL YES MORE WHITEBOX!!!!!!! =)

please excuse my run on sentences lol

[Hapernack]

HQ doesnt make you go faster. Never understood people who would blow gil on a wortheless item but lolwhitebox.

Never understood why you wouldn't wanna go for being the best.

[Celebrindor]

using your examples:

no, wyrmal legs and aquarian body are definitely not worth the effort for a HQ. Unless you're a whitebox freak (and more power to ya, wish I had that gil lying around).

in my opinion, A. hands ARE worth the effort if you have the gil to do it. Zenith MItts+1 are still the most potent nuking hands piece out there with a full MAB +6....more than Yigit, more than Morrigan's. Are they necessary? Certainly not, and the differences typically do not justify the pricetag. Sad thing is that the NQ cursed items are so vastly undervalued that the high price for the HQ versions is only justified to make up for that loss- at least among those cursed items worth +1'ing.

Look at most servers- cursed slacks are usually an at cost or profit synth as the cursed slacks-1 are clearly not worth the gil. And as such, the NQ stays at a reasonable price that yields the crafter some profit. Now look at cursed mitts.....most servers are sitting at a loss ranging from 100k-300k depending on the price of Siren's Hairs- because people actually desire the cursed mitts-1 (usually crafters shooting for the -1 version to keep destroy the market on the NQ cursed gear.....rarely is it to sell unless they have already hit the -1 T0 lottery for their own abjuration).

Honestly, if the NQ versions of these high demand cursed items sold at even a break even point, the cost of the HQ versions would drop drastically. 90% of the pricetag is related to recouping the losses in shooting for the -1, and then a slight profit to the crafter. Eliminate that loss, and a crafter could double his profit line and the pricetag would still drop by 75%. Amazing what removing the idiots throwing 15 sollerets on the AH chopping block at once would do.

[Delekii]

HQ doesnt make you go faster. Never understood people who would blow gil on a wortheless item but lolwhitebox.

Never understood why you wouldn't wanna go for being the best.

HP +2, MP +2, Fire +1, Lightning +1, Water +1, Dark +1

Thats the difference between cuisses and cuisses-1.

Buying that doesn't make you the best, it makes you an idiot. There is no-one rich enough to make that a worthwhile purchase at the price it costs you. Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

[Sendra]

Unless you have an exorbitant amount of gil ready to be blown, the Abjuration's going to be worthless while it sits in your mog locker waiting to be uncursed. If you can't readily afford the Cursed gear -1, or at least be able to soon, you'd be better off getting the NQ. Yeah, the HQ is better, but is it good enough to warrant waiting several months while you farm/craft/buy the gil to afford it?

[Credos]

HQ doesnt make you go faster. Never understood people who would blow gil on a wortheless item but lolwhitebox.

Never understood why you wouldn't wanna go for being the best.

HP +2, MP +2, Fire +1, Lightning +1, Water +1, Dark +1

Thats the difference between cuisses and cuisses-1.

Buying that doesn't make you the best, it makes you an idiot. There is no-one rich enough to make that a worthwhile purchase at the price it costs you. Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

I have a pair of Blood Cuisses; it was my money to spend and I got the HQ version because I want my PLD to be spoiled.

I don't agree that by making the purchase of +1 w legs to "make me the best" has any merit whatsoever. But I do want to have my PLD be pretty pimp; and if I do who are you to say that I'm an idiot because of it?

[Ryko]

0 HQ cursed pieces, and the second anyone says that a whitebox makes someone better than me I'd be happy to stomp whoever the fuck theyre talking about just to prove em wrong

[spooky]

OMG HQ Abjs are amazing!!! If your penis is tiny.

[Delekii]

HQ doesnt make you go faster. Never understood people who would blow gil on a wortheless item but lolwhitebox.

Never understood why you wouldn't wanna go for being the best.

HP +2, MP +2, Fire +1, Lightning +1, Water +1, Dark +1

Thats the difference between cuisses and cuisses-1.

Buying that doesn't make you the best, it makes you an idiot. There is no-one rich enough to make that a worthwhile purchase at the price it costs you. Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

I have a pair of Blood Cuisses; it was my money to spend and I got the HQ version because I want my PLD to be spoiled.

I don't agree that by making the purchase of +1 w legs to "make me the best" has any merit whatsoever. But I do want to have my PLD be pretty pimp; and if I do who are you to say that I'm an idiot because of it?

Short answer, yes. Of course it was your money to spend, but what's that got to do with the intelligence of the way you spend it?

I certainly don't have a problem with people who buy HQ because they can, but I do have a problem with people who attempt to flaunt HQ of things like wlegs as if it means something, because all it means is that you know how to waste cash. If you and another PLD stand next to each other, and I check you both, and you have identical of every piece of gear except for you having wlegs+1 and him having wlegs nq, I have more respect for him than you because he didn't waste the cost of wlegs+1 in gil.

[Credos]

HQ doesnt make you go faster. Never understood people who would blow gil on a wortheless item but lolwhitebox.

Never understood why you wouldn't wanna go for being the best.

HP +2, MP +2, Fire +1, Lightning +1, Water +1, Dark +1

Thats the difference between cuisses and cuisses-1.

Buying that doesn't make you the best, it makes you an idiot. There is no-one rich enough to make that a worthwhile purchase at the price it costs you. Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

I have a pair of Blood Cuisses; it was my money to spend and I got the HQ version because I want my PLD to be spoiled.

I don't agree that by making the purchase of +1 w legs to "make me the best" has any merit whatsoever. But I do want to have my PLD be pretty pimp; and if I do who are you to say that I'm an idiot because of it?

Short answer, yes. Of course it was your money to spend, but what's that got to do with the intelligence of the way you spend it?

I certainly don't have a problem with people who buy HQ because they can, but I do have a problem with people who attempt to flaunt HQ of things like wlegs as if it means something, because all it means is that you know how to waste cash. If you and another PLD stand next to each other, and I check you both, and you have identical of every piece of gear except for you having wlegs+1 and him having wlegs nq, I have more respect for him than you because he didn't waste the cost of wlegs+1 in gil.

Well I am sad beyond words to know that someone who I've never met, who isn't even on my server thinks less of me because I decided to purchase a HQ Abjuration.

If I had 60,000 dollars and wanted to buy a BMW, but I only "needed" to have a Honda to get to and from work, would you think less of me because I purchased the BMW?

Case in point is that if it makes you happy and you have the ability to purchase it then it's not a stupid purchase. I'm sure there is something in your life that you've bought that was "idiotic " by other people's opinions, but you didn't care and bought it anyways.

[The Stig]

I don't have that much gil laying around, but maybe it's just the "shoot for the best mentality".

White box is quite tempting, but I see what you're all saying. Maybe if the prices did not have such a huge difference between them then it would be justifiable to purchase the HQ.

I was shopping around for laptops the other month and the price difference between CPU 1 and CPU 2 is not very much, the CPU 2 being the (slightly) better one of the 2. In reality the performance increase is probably not noticable (when I meant CPU 1 and 2, I mean like a 1.6ghz and 1.7ghz kinda thing). But in that case slight increase in cost might justify the (slight if barely noticable) performance.

But in FFXI's case because of the massive huge price gap, which is what we're discussing here, isn't worth it, and I see/understand what you're all talking about.

Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

Hmm, just a thought here, but I don't think that's a worthwhile comparison as ... well it doesn't actually do something (or anything) but to look good. Better comparison might be a "generic sports car" and a Ferrari or something ... ? Both are functional, except 1 is "white box". Then again I guess the pair of generic jeans vs a pair for $600 is the same, both cover your privates up/keep you warm.

I have the gil to purchase it, but I also had other things in mind I wanted buying. I'm not "stupidly" looking to just go buy it and not think, but rather just would like to discuss it. At the end of the day I don't think anyone would care much, as it is to me an once in a lifetime opportunity. Kinda like the Divine Might Earrings and CoP Rings decisions (although it's different now as you can reget them).

I might just buy the NQ in this case.

[Credos]

I don't have that much gil laying around, but maybe it's just the "shoot for the best mentality".

White box is quite tempting, but I see what you're all saying. Maybe if the prices did not have such a huge difference between them then it would be justifiable to purchase the HQ.

I was shopping around for laptops the other month and the price difference between CPU 1 and CPU 2 is not very much, the CPU 2 being the (slightly) better one of the 2. In reality the performance increase is probably not noticable (when I meant CPU 1 and 2, I mean like a 1.6ghz and 1.7ghz kinda thing). But in that case slight increase in cost might justify the (slight if barely noticable) performance.

But in FFXI's case because of the massive huge price gap, which is what we're discussing here, isn't worth it, and I see/understand what you're all talking about.

Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

Hmm, just a thought here, but I don't think that's a worthwhile comparison as ... well it doesn't actually do something (or anything) but to look good. Better comparison might be a "generic sports car" and a Ferrari or something ... ? Both are functional, except 1 is "white box". Then again I guess the pair of generic jeans vs a pair for $600 is the same, both cover your privates up/keep you warm.

I have the gil to purchase it, but I also had other things in mind I wanted buying. I'm not "stupidly" looking to just go buy it and not think, but rather just would like to discuss it. At the end of the day I don't think anyone would care much, as it is to me an once in a lifetime opportunity. Kinda like the Divine Might Earrings and CoP Rings decisions (although it's different now as you can reget them).

I might just buy the NQ in this case.

Well, it's your decision at the end of the day. Will they provide you with anything game breaking that the NQ version doesn't have? No, they won't. But if it makes you happy to have them then yes imo they are worth it.

While we're on the topic; apart from Zenith Mitts +1, what would other people say are "Worthwhile" functionality wise?

[safer]

am i the only one that wants to see an alliance of bsts killing nidhogg?




(btw the correct answer is people who uncurse dalmatica-1 are retarded and would be better off selling and buying x amount of kraken clubs to better themselves and their LS)

[Shuvo]

HP +2, MP +2, Fire +1, Lightning +1, Water +1, Dark +1

Thats the difference between cuisses and cuisses-1.

Buying that doesn't make you the best, it makes you an idiot. There is no-one rich enough to make that a worthwhile purchase at the price it costs you. Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

Just b/c you're poor doesn't mean everyone else is. W.leg+1 is pimp, not worth the cost sure, but if you have the money and nothing else to spend it on, why not? You're wrong in saying that nobody cares, I have the HQ and I get sooo many /tells of people admiring my gear. That alone makes it worth it, for me.

My town gear (RDM is my only job):
http://www.largeimagehost.com/HL/rchsts/hqrdm.jpg
I also have a HP armor set which lets me break 2k hp as a hume RDM, which I got just for shits and giggles :D

[Bagel]

If I had 60,000 dollars and wanted to buy a BMW, but I only "needed" to have a Honda to get to and from work, would you think less of me because I purchased the BMW?

Zenith Mitts are a used Camry, Zenith Mitts +1 are a BMW.
Crimson Cuisses are a Honda Civic, Blood Cuisses are a Honda Civic with spinners and type-R sticker.

[Ryko]

HP +2, MP +2, Fire +1, Lightning +1, Water +1, Dark +1

Thats the difference between cuisses and cuisses-1.

Buying that doesn't make you the best, it makes you an idiot. There is no-one rich enough to make that a worthwhile purchase at the price it costs you. Its no different than buying a pair of jeans for $600 or something.. those who do it think they are cool, while everyone else thinks otherwise.

Just b/c you're poor doesn't mean everyone else is. W.leg+1 is pimp, not worth the cost sure, but if you have the money and nothing else to spend it on, why not? You're wrong in saying that nobody cares, I have the HQ and I get sooo many /tells of people admiring my gear. That alone makes it worth it, for me.

P.S. My town gear (RDM is my only job)
I also have a HP armor set which lets me break 2k hp as a hume RDM, which I got just for shits and giggles :D

There's always something else to spend it on, the only HQs I have are a cerb mantle +1, a bow and an HQ sniper and I'm sure the tell log about my gear easily dwarfs yours, as if it mattered in the first place (the fact that the tells make it worth it in the first place is laughable).

And I love bagel.

[Max™]

NQ Joyeuse... tsk tsk.