Nyzul Isle floor 100 Question

[Zumi]

I had a question about Nyzul Isle floor 100. We usually warp the disc holder out when the boss is at 20% or so, so their data won't get erased. After we kill the boss and get drops we have everyone use the fire flies to leave instead of clicking the rune to exit.

My question is if we finish the assault by exiting with the rune to get tokens for the 5 remaining members, instead of using flies, will this delete the disc holders data? I was thinking we still should be able to get tokens and not have the data be erased, is this correct?

[Arouz]

The disk holders data gets erased and you have too start from floor 1 again but this time with a key item. On a floor 100 win, with key item, the HNM will drop 100% if the disk holder gets erased again but that means your back at floor 1 >.>. so all in all better too just farm floor 100 the way your doing it right now.

[Phraust]

OK, i believe what you are asking is:

If your Disk holder leaves, can the rest of the group exit and colect okens without erasing the disk holder's data? The answer is yes.

We did this plenty of times. Dis holder would Warp/Cudgel, iirc even use the fireflies and we'd kill the boss, and exit, collecting our tokens. The Disk holder would come back and we'd do it again from floor 96.

[Zumi]

Yea thats the anwser I was looking for thanks.

[tea]

The disk holders data gets erased and you have too start from floor 1 again but this time with a key item. On a floor 100 win, with key item, the HNM will drop 100% if the disk holder gets erased again but that means your back at floor 1 >.>. so all in all better too just farm floor 100 the way your doing it right now.

don't answer questions you don't know ->

[Alman]

does the disk holder have to warp out before you kill the boss, or can he they do it after the boss is dead but before clicking on the exit?

[bebeci]

does the disk holder have to warp out before you kill the boss, or can he they do it after the boss is dead but before clicking on the exit?

When the boss hits 0%, the disc holder will get a key item.
So yah, he must be zoned out before the boss hits 0%.

[Aihree]

Something I have been wondering/searching on but have not been able to get a straight answer on is - how does getting the key item from floor 100 (and subsequently erasing the runic disc and starting over again) change the experience on the second trip through?

A former LS mate has hinted that the second trip through with that key item ensures 100% drop from the 20/40/60/80 bosses, but that doesn't seem like something SE would do, so I'm treating it with suspicion.

Another post I found is that beating floor 100 with runic key keyitem in hand will result in weapon drop being for the job of the runic key holder - is that the only change that results from the runic key though?

My static just reached floor 80, and we're pondering how to approach future runs. I'm hoping a little more information about what the runic key does will help in planning.

[Byrd]

A former LS mate has hinted that the second trip through with that key item ensures 100% drop from the 20/40/60/80 bosses, but that doesn't seem like something SE would do, so I'm treating it with suspicion.

The key item does not appear to make a difference in the drop rate on floor bosses. If it improves anything, it's minor, and is assuredly not 100%, nor anywhere close.

Another post I found is that beating floor 100 with runic key keyitem in hand will result in weapon drop being for the job of the runic key holder - is that the only change that results from the runic key though?

So far, as best anyone can tell this is the only change that results from having the Runic Key item. 100% drop rate for the weapon for the disc holder's current job. This is only true IF the disc holder for floor 100 already has the Runic Key item.

This thread is everything Nyzul Isle related, and should answer most of your questions.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=17020

[Suiram]

This has already been summarized in a couple other threads, but it can't hurt to review it again because a lot of times people get confused by what various updates changed. In any event ignore the way things maybe used to be, this is how it works now:

Runic Disc Holder's First Run
20/40/60/80: Low chance for Armor
100 (disc holder warps): low chance for head piece, 100% chance for weapon, but job of weapon is random
100 (disc holder stays): 100% chance on one of the 3 head pieces, 100% chance for weapon, but job of weapon is random, disc gets wiped

Runic Disc Holder's Subsequent Runs (has Runic Key key item)
20/40/60/80: Low chance for Armor
100 (disc holder warps): low chance for head piece, 100% drop for the weapon of the job the disc holder was on for the run before warping
100 (disc holder stays): 100% chance on one of the 3 head pieces, 100% drop for the weapon of the job the disc holder was on for the run, disc gets wiped

[Aihree]

Thanks, I figured the other person may not have been knowing what they were talking about, no matter how lucky their post-100 runs have been ; ;