Newest "rusty cap" RMT exploit

[driftor]

While I am loathe to lose such a lucrative opportunity, I feel I must report that RMT (at least on my server) have found a new NPC exploit. It is regarding ingredients for Blood Broth/Clear Blood Broth. Since the update that increased the drop rate for Beast Blood and Bird Blood, a few RMTers have been dedicated to farming Lesser Gaylas and Poison Leeches especially. With the incredibly fast repop of these mobs and the supremely high new drop rate, the current NPC selling price allows them to introduce 40k/hr and up in new currency for each item.

The selling price for these items should be lowered drastically. I'm sure there are those that will scoff at my revealing their latest money-making ploy. However, I believe this is to be a serious concern that allows RMT to generate about 30M new gil per month per server just from Bird Blood alone. Please help pass this along so that SE may take the necessary steps to eliminate this exploit. Thank you.

*edit* Formatting and spelling.

[aurik]

We allow more than 80 characters per column.

[Thorny]

Been wondering about all the RMT in Zi'tah on Remora, apparently it caught on here as well.

[Zilong]

On the other hand, shouldn't BST everywhere rejoice with the cheap availability of lars?

[Minions]

On the other hand, shouldn't BST everywhere rejoice with the cheap availability of lars?

If you can beat the gilsellers to the bats ohhhhhhhhh!

[Zilong]

On the other hand, shouldn't BST everywhere rejoice with the cheap availability of lars?

If you can beat the gilsellers to the bats ohhhhhhhhh!

Wouldn't they sell the HQ? or do they NPC those too?

[Suiram]

How much do they NPC for? I get the HQ occasionally from Chocobo Hot and Cold, but they seem to take a while to sell for only like 6k. I guess I'm dumb and didn't think to check sale price.

[Chupunpupun]

He's talking about the beast blood and bird blood which sells for 300+ and 500+ to the NPC, respectively. If the drop rate is 90%, then yeah it could be worth it. Now I know why the RMT s were killing the lesser gaylas.

[Knightfell]

Now I know why the RMT s were killing the lesser gaylas.

Was recently leveling bst in Zi'tah and was wondering that myself.

[SephYuyX]

Hmm thanks for the farming tip.

[Cream Soda]

On my server the RMT just stick with the bats near the Goobbues, and thats not even close to where I farm mine (a good number of bats north of the outpost) and I make good money there. Oh and to give a better figure of 300g+ on the beast blood, its 556ish if you sell in bastok (i'm guessing other npcs too) and like 549 if you sell to outpost NPC. As mnk/thf with TH1 i can make about 30-40k a game night (since they don't pop during the day) I'll have to check the 2nd option listed in the OP though I haven't tried farming that.

[ronin sparthos]

God damn it, suppress this info lest my last source of farming dies overnight >.>

[Edrick]

God damn it, suppress this info lest my last source of farming dies overnight >.>

Well, really, it'll only die if SE decides to change it. Though, I doubt they would. Takes some form of "effort" to get the item (you have to actually fight and kill things that a level 1 could not do, hence why the rusty cap thing was nerfed, any level 1 could just go wild on getting them and doing what was needed. Well, that, and it was hella good gil for near zero effort...). So, really, it's more about competition over the stuff that drops the item. 40k/hour... that's pretty nice in this economy.

[Isiolia]

Prices are coming down on the jugs for BSTs, but the simple fact is that you still need far more than just these two items along with HQ'ing the synth.

I think what would be a better route though would be to increase NPC sale price on most items to allow for moderate farming by most anyone. While it'd be nice for RMT by extension, I think most players would appreciate it and the economy in general would benefit. RMT will just find the next most profitable thing and spam that until it gets changed, and so on. Whether it's NPC'ing, playing the AH, or whatever else.

Maybe restricting the gil per day you can receive from NPCs would work better. Your average player probably isn't making more than 100k a day off of NPCs. Likely they aren't making 50k.

[Yuri-G]

Maybe restricting the gil per day you can receive from NPCs would work better. Your average player probably isn't making more than 100k a day off of NPCs. Likely they aren't making 50k.

That actually sounds like a decent idea, but then again RMT would just create more mules and send the items to each other, wouldn't they? Would take a little longer, but I doubt they'd care.

[Amele]

at some point, you have to accept a certain rate of gil influx from npc sale farming.

it's one of the primary gil sources in the game anyway; honestly, and without a reasonable amount of it, the economy would crash (more than it has, I mean.)

40k/hr is hardly dangerous. I can make more than that easily doing certain npc synths, and the only limit is how many ingredients happen to be up at the time.

sure it's probably 30M/week or something else that's kind of depressing but consider how much gil just dynamis destroys and it kind of puts it in perspective.

[ronin sparthos]

Maybe restricting the gil per day you can receive from NPCs would work better. Your average player probably isn't making more than 100k a day off of NPCs. Likely they aren't making 50k.

This is the approach SE took with fishing... and completely fuck-tarded the system.

[Isiolia]

Well, the point is more that just nerfing the NPC sell price on those particular items won't solve the general problem. It just means RMT will move on to something else. To a point, the average, legit player has been hurt by the RMT-countermeasures. Whether the fishing adjustments, removal of gil for deflation, or whatever else. What they do to combat them hurts us too.

No matter what is done, RMT with their all-day every-day horde of drones will be able to pull enough gil out of it to sell. The bigger thing is whether or not you can make a meaningful amount of gil without that sort of setup.

I mean, in theory, only having NPCs dispense say, 5% more gil than is taken in through NPC purchases/fees would keep this in check too. But the fact that RMT would be pulling in a lot of the gil would make it more logical to go on an individual basis.

[Kerberoz]

What's the problem? This isn't an exploit. Anyone can do it and it doesn't circumvent game mechanics.

Would you rather have RMT off farming leeches somewhere or camping NMs against you? I preferred the old rusty cap days to the current dead economy. Crafters could actually make money back then when everyone had tons of gil and spent it liberally.

If anything they should make NPCs pay more for items to get more gil in the economy and bring it back to life. Fuck deflation. It rewards lazy people.

[Lavik]

the economy has gotten worse but i don't see it as crippling as people make it out to be
i can farm 200k/day and its worth the same amount as when i farmed 800k/day a year ago, but it's still the same amount of time saving up for any big items i want to buy
most stuff seems proportionate-a few random items still like KC but it's doesn't seem too bad