'Virtual theft' leads to arrest

[Rya]

I was just browsing the BBC website and spotted this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7094764.stm

[Ashira]

So...

if someone buys gil from IGE, then buys items...


then is stupid enough to share their account and get their shit jacked...


they can go to the police? LOL

[Tonko]

Not FFXI related.... moved.

[Vigilia]

So...

if someone buys gil from IGE, then buys items...


then is stupid enough to share their account and get their shit jacked...


they can go to the police? LOL

I don't think it would work like that in FFXI as IGE can't claim they own the gil they sell and you're already breaking the ToS by buying gil. True that the term "ownership" is a bit vague in terms of virtual goods but at least in Habbo Hotel you're buying items with real money directly from the company that owns the game and the virtual property (it's such a clever moneyspinner as well, my 13 and 15-year old cousins are addicted to it and put all their phone credit into buying non-existing furniture and so do all their classmates but then every generation of kids needs something to put their pocket money into). If you could take your credit card or mobile phone to Dragon's Aery with you and directly buy a Ridill from SE then you could compare FFXI to Habbo.

[Khamsin]

So...

if someone buys gil from IGE, then buys items...


then is stupid enough to share their account and get their shit jacked...


they can go to the police? LOL

I don't think it would work like that in FFXI as IGE can't claim they own the gil they sell and you're already breaking the ToS by buying gil. True that the term "ownership" is a bit vague in terms of virtual goods but at least in Habbo Hotel you're buying items with real money directly from the company that owns the game and the virtual property (it's such a clever moneyspinner as well, my 13 and 15-year old cousins are addicted to it and put all their phone credit into buying non-existing furniture and so do all their classmates but then every generation of kids needs something to put their pocket money into). If you could take your credit card or mobile phone to Dragon's Aery with you and directly buy a Ridill from SE then you could compare FFXI to Habbo.

Does Habbo Hotel allow you to sell stuff back for money? If there was a resale value, and the virtual items you owned could be sold for money back to the company, then there would definitely be a need for some more developed rules or laws in those situations.

Imagine a game that lets you spend RL money, but also allows you to earn RL money based on legitimate game company-sanctioned virtual goods trade and services. I wonder how disputes are solved in those cases...

[Charla]

Virtual theft is a growing issue in virtual worlds; in 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Is it bad that I paid more attention to the use of the word row than to the (very old) news?

[Priran]

Virtual theft is a growing issue in virtual worlds; in 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Is it bad that I paid more attention to the use of the word row than to the (very old) news?

Yes, journalists that use pointless 20 dollar words are the worst shit ever.

[Khamsin]

Virtual theft is a growing issue in virtual worlds; in 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Is it bad that I paid more attention to the use of the word row than to the (very old) news?

Yes, journalists that use pointless 20 dollar words are the worst shit ever.

I'd consider it more of a 20 shilling word.

[Fhqwghads]

Virtual theft is a growing issue in virtual worlds; in 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Is it bad that I paid more attention to the use of the word row than to the (very old) news?

Yes, journalists that use pointless 20 dollar words are the worst shit ever.

Isn't "row" a pretty common word over in the UK? Keep in mind it's being reported by the BBC.

[Charla]

Virtual theft is a growing issue in virtual worlds; in 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Is it bad that I paid more attention to the use of the word row than to the (very old) news?

Yes, journalists that use pointless 20 dollar words are the worst shit ever.

Isn't "row" a pretty common word over in the UK? Keep in mind it's being reported by the BBC.

That was my point... the UK-only term distracted me from the article.

edit: Priran probably either meant that "row" was a fancy word, or that another journalist would have used a needlessly fancy word. Either way, Khamsin had the correct answer.

[Fhqwghads]

Virtual theft is a growing issue in virtual worlds; in 2005 a Chinese gamer was stabbed to death in a row over a sword in a game.

Is it bad that I paid more attention to the use of the word row than to the (very old) news?

Yes, journalists that use pointless 20 dollar words are the worst shit ever.

Isn't "row" a pretty common word over in the UK? Keep in mind it's being reported by the BBC.

That was my point... the UK-only term distracted me from the article.

Yeah, but I think Pririan was stating it's a fancy word, which I don't think it is. Meh... doesn't matter much either way, pointless derail over.

[Priran]

Yeah, but I think Pririan was stating it's a fancy word, which I don't think it is.

Not that it was fancy, but that it was used instead of a more familiar word like "argument" or "altercation" or something because the writer felt like flaunting his wordiness. If people actually use it in that sense commonly in the UK, then nevermind.

Also, Fhqwghads can't spell Priran. big lulz

[Fhqwghads]

Yeah, but I think Pririan was stating it's a fancy word, which I don't think it is.

Not that it was fancy, but that it was used instead of a more familiar word like "argument" or "altercation" or something because the writer felt like flaunting his wordiness. If people actually use it in that sense commonly in the UK, then nevermind.

Also, Fhqwghads can't spell Priran. big lulz

I can't even spell my own name half the time, so no big shocker there.

[Khamsin]

Yeah, but I think Pririan was stating it's a fancy word, which I don't think it is.

Not that it was fancy, but that it was used instead of a more familiar word like "argument" or "altercation" or something because the writer felt like flaunting his wordiness. If people actually use it in that sense commonly in the UK, then nevermind.

Also, Fhqwghads can't spell Priran. big lulz

A dignified publication has no need of such low-brow abridged words like "argument" or "altercation". They will use wordy, eloquent speech like "row" as they see fit.