Easy Prey? Decent Challenge?

[Caestus]

i find this intersting, why even bother checking the mobs in the new areas. if it checks DC and you're a Melee job. it's gonna kick your ass


my NIN 286 evasion skill with a lot of + Evasion and 257 parry i just can't beat a DC Gnole yet... it's really annoying cuz i need the horn. it hits as hard as a Very Tough, it's Evasion is pretty high for a DC o.O and it has about 7k HP. i was able to solo IT Aura Statues in sky on my NIN but i can not beat a Gnole that cons DC..

i think they will patch this.. or will they keep it like this?

[Khamsin]

i find this intersting, why even bother checking the mobs in the new areas. if it checks DC and you're a Melee job. it's gonna kick your ass

Hasn't this always been the case?

Remember, this is the past.

[6souls]

hop on your rdm and sleep-nuke it. took me 4 hours of farming them with my blm to get a drop.

[Apelila]

I was duoing T's and EM's with a BLU the first night on my MNK as MNK/THF, all the way to East Ronfaure [S] where campaign NM raped us.

[Caestus]

i'm not very skilled in RDM yet. i've solo'd Genbu but... that's Genbu. and due to my Elemental Magic (around 220) i might get resisted too much. but i can just sub BLM i suppose. i'll give it a try!

[Solarus]

Eh, that's just Gnoles really, they're nasty mobs. The other checks seem about in line from what you'd expect from those types of mobs at that level. It's not like it's WotG specific, plenty of mobs that you wouldn't want to touch as a melee that check as DC.

But yeah, I went to attack some random EP one in Batallia to screw around with, didn't have shadows up at first or evasion gear on since I wasn't expecting much. Ended up in red HP by the time I killed it.

I'd been thinking about solo/duo farming some for a bit of money from those drops too, but they're too nasty for it to be worth it.

A lot of the new mobs seem pretty buffed. VT Gnats in Meriphtaud Mountains check as High Evasion to me, with 299 H2H skill and +40 Acc.

[Wizerd]

i find this intersting, why even bother checking the mobs in the new areas. if it checks DC and you're a Melee job. it's gonna kick your ass


my NIN 286 evasion skill with a lot of + Evasion and 257 parry i just can't beat a DC Gnole yet... it's really annoying cuz i need the horn. it hits as hard as a Very Tough, it's Evasion is pretty high for a DC o.O and it has about 7k HP. i was able to solo IT Aura Statues in sky on my NIN but i can not beat a Gnole that cons DC..

i think they will patch this.. or will they keep it like this?

The only mob that I've had trouble soloing on THF so far are Decrepit Gnoles. Even the War Lynx miss enough that while you're paralyzed, it won't kill you, on NIN or THF. Use Sushi if you're having accuracy problems.

I think Gnoles are just meant to be a little tougher. They have more HP because they are Monk type (evidenced by their ability to Counter). Their TP moves are slightly annoying (25% cure, eliminates 3 debuffs off him is one, the only bad one), but managable for anyone with Subtle Blow.

The rest of the DC mobs, while hitting hard, are slow enough and miss enough for me.

[recca84]

i'm not very skilled in RDM yet. i've solo'd Genbu but... that's Genbu. and due to my Elemental Magic (around 220) i might get resisted too much. but i can just sub BLM i suppose. i'll give it a try!

You solo'd Genbu since when lol (Screenshot or it doesnt happen)... This is the guy who wiped to a DC Raptor ..! so talking about soloing a Genbu! What an atrocious lie it is.

Evasion is overrated.. anyway.. might as well solo as thf instead ..

[Max™]

Not like soloing Genbu means anything.

If I could teach a monkey to run a kiting path and apply DoT's they could solo Genbu, not really that unbelieveable a claim.

[Caestus]

ok Riiaider. this is BG keep what i did for Alexander amusment off the forums. if you REALLY want proof i'll show you in a few days too busy with the new expansion.

and yea it really does seem like the Gnoles are ment to be nastier. they also have an move that intimidates you. it was at 1% and i got intimidated 3 times in a row. and then he did 2 of them healing moves for 1440+ each time :/ fuker lol.


Edit: i know that soloing Genbu means nothing. but he's so easy and all yo udo need to do is DoT it. it really wasn't me trying to brag, just me trying to show i have absolutly no skill in soloing other than DOT a mob and run for it.

[Lovian]

its takes alittle more skill than that bcb, thats why not every rdm does it.

[Shuvo]

Genbu is easy, it's just boring as fuck to do + the pop items usually cost more then the drops. That's why not every rdm does it.

[eva00r]

i find this intersting, why even bother checking the mobs in the new areas. if it checks DC and you're a Melee job. it's gonna kick your ass


my NIN 286 evasion skill with a lot of + Evasion and 257 parry i just can't beat a DC Gnole yet... it's really annoying cuz i need the horn. it hits as hard as a Very Tough, it's Evasion is pretty high for a DC o.O and it has about 7k HP. i was able to solo IT Aura Statues in sky on my NIN but i can not beat a Gnole that cons DC..

i think they will patch this.. or will they keep it like this?

The only mob that I've had trouble soloing on THF so far are Decrepit Gnoles. Even the War Lynx miss enough that while you're paralyzed, it won't kill you, on NIN or THF. Use Sushi if you're having accuracy problems.

I think Gnoles are just meant to be a little tougher. They have more HP because they are Monk type (evidenced by their ability to Counter). Their TP moves are slightly annoying (25% cure, eliminates 3 debuffs off him is one, the only bad one), but managable for anyone with Subtle Blow.

The rest of the DC mobs, while hitting hard, are slow enough and miss enough for me.

THF naturally have 55 more evasion than NIN. Don't expect NIN to dodge something that THF can.

[Jodwahh]

DC only explains exp gained from killing, not cuntishness values sadly

I swear these things are the bastard children of Fenrir and Satan.

[Yutuyu]

Did you have Sigil up?

[Wizerd]

i find this intersting, why even bother checking the mobs in the new areas. if it checks DC and you're a Melee job. it's gonna kick your ass


my NIN 286 evasion skill with a lot of + Evasion and 257 parry i just can't beat a DC Gnole yet... it's really annoying cuz i need the horn. it hits as hard as a Very Tough, it's Evasion is pretty high for a DC o.O and it has about 7k HP. i was able to solo IT Aura Statues in sky on my NIN but i can not beat a Gnole that cons DC..

i think they will patch this.. or will they keep it like this?

The only mob that I've had trouble soloing on THF so far are Decrepit Gnoles. Even the War Lynx miss enough that while you're paralyzed, it won't kill you, on NIN or THF. Use Sushi if you're having accuracy problems.

I think Gnoles are just meant to be a little tougher. They have more HP because they are Monk type (evidenced by their ability to Counter). Their TP moves are slightly annoying (25% cure, eliminates 3 debuffs off him is one, the only bad one), but managable for anyone with Subtle Blow.

The rest of the DC mobs, while hitting hard, are slow enough and miss enough for me.

THF naturally have 55 more evasion than NIN. Don't expect NIN to dodge something that THF can.

NIN also has Kurayami on the mob, and I was wearing a few Eva- pieces on my THF, and no Eva+ pieces. <_<;

[Caestus]

Did you have Sigil up?

i did not.


and NIN has 269 base evasion skill THF has 276 base evasion skill. i had Boxers Mantle and Evasion Torque for 286 evasion skill. i know THF gets evasion Bonus, that must be what you are talking about?




and to Genbu, took me 7 hours but i did it. DOT and and tier 2 nukes. never again will i do it. all you need is Crimson Legs.

[Yutuyu]

Did you have Sigil up?

i did not.

There you go.

[Caestus]

Did you have Sigil up?

i did not.

There you go.

what does Sigil do for you while soloing? keeps TP from resetting? what else?

[evilpaul]

It gives a Def/Eva bonus on EM or lower mobs that you're auto-attacking.

Also, the True Sight, upright-walking, VT Gnoles (Lisibons or something they're called) make it pretty clear they're Monk. They use H2H and the second fist/claw doesn't interrupt casting Sleep before Warping out of there.