Sea Gorgets & WS

[Abel]

I've not seen a clear cut definitive answer, but my questions are pretty simple in relation to these. I have two main jobs that I use, one does single hit WS, the other does multi-hit (namely Guillotine) I was curious about the consensus on sea gorgets on single-hit and multi-hit ws, would a sea torque be better for either? Or would pcc be best? And for single hit (ranged attack) would Qiqrin(sp) collar be better than sea gorget? or would sea torque be better? Just curious as to which is best, the gorgets are more than easy enough for me to get just takes some time, and I don't really want to go all the way out just to realize that for x WS y is best for it, when i spent a lot of time getting x. I apologize if this has been discussed before, I just vaguely recall it being discussed when they first came out, but I never dug into it, as to how much they improve it.

[Ziegus]

Since I'm assuming your jobs are Drk and Rng I'd have to say go with an Aqua Gorget. For Guillotine you'll probably want to just keep the Peacock Charm but for Spiral Hell the gorget will be better. Cross Reaper is two hits right? I'm not a drk so I don't really remember lol. As for Sidewinder and Slug Shot I'd go with the Aqua Gorget as well since they both have the water property and the acc and damage bonus will be active on ws. I'm hopefully sure this would be the best choice.

[Gaborn]

It was always my understanding that the sea gorgets gave an equal to or greater than acc bonus than PCC. If that's incorrect someone let the both of us know lol, but I would keep the sea gorget especially on the multi-strike weaponskills because you're getting that .1 damage modifier on each swing.

[layoneil]

It was always my understanding that the sea gorgets gave an equal to or greater than acc bonus than PCC. If that's incorrect someone let the both of us know lol

Acc bonus only applies to the first hit of multi-hit WS. as the number of hits increases, the Acc bonus for the Gorget decreases.

[Tricen]

I think it was said that gorgets are really good for 1hit-2hit WS's and PCC or something is better for multi-hit WS's.

[Gaborn]

It was always my understanding that the sea gorgets gave an equal to or greater than acc bonus than PCC. If that's incorrect someone let the both of us know lol

Acc bonus only applies to the first hit of multi-hit WS. as the number of hits increases, the Acc bonus for the Gorget decreases.

Does the same concept apply to the .1 increase to the damage modifier?

[aurik]

It was always my understanding that the sea gorgets gave an equal to or greater than acc bonus than PCC. If that's incorrect someone let the both of us know lol

Acc bonus only applies to the first hit of multi-hit WS. as the number of hits increases, the Acc bonus for the Gorget decreases.

Does the same concept apply to the .1 increase to the damage modifier?

The .1 increase to the damage modifier definitely only applied to the first hit. The accuracy bonus may only apply to the first hit: the evidence seemed to indicate that, though not enough was collected to say for certain.

[heavensword]

Yes.

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[Abel]

Thanks for all the advice, just to clarify though, it seems for say Slug/Side/Det/Emp and any other 1-2 hit WS I'd want the gorget for, but for any that's over like Guillotine, i'd want pcc, or a sea torque, correct?

[Zirk]

I would say so, Rukenshin actually made a livejournal update recently which stressed the importance of accuracy on multi hit weapon skills.

[Callisto]

Thanks for all the advice, just to clarify though, it seems for say Slug/Side/Det/Emp and any other 1-2 hit WS I'd want the gorget for, but for any that's over like Guillotine, i'd want pcc, or a sea torque, correct?

I would grab a Light Gorget for the RNG, it'll work for SlugWinder and Emp/Det(and is definitely better than the Qiqirn Collar), then just keep the PCC for Guillotine. I'm not for sure, but I thought Light might work for Spinning Slash as well, don't quote me on that.

[Indalecia]

It does.

[Epical]

Semi-related to this thread, if one were to hypothetically have NIN SAM and MNK at 75, the gorgets that cover the most ground would be Snow (G/Y), and Shadow (lolTen/K)?

[Merkury]

Im a drk and have tried snow for guillotine out and it sucks. Stay w/ the PCC. Sea gorget for cross reaper and spiral hell though. If you really want a good sea neck piece for guillotine get a justice torque ^^

[Chupunpupun]

Im a drk and have tried snow for guillotine out and it sucks. Stay w/ the PCC. Sea gorget for cross reaper and spiral hell though. If you really want a good sea neck piece for guillotine get a justice torque ^^

That's funny cause I use nothing but soil gorget for my rampage/vorpal blade and my ACC is just fine.

[Max™]

Im a drk and have tried snow for guillotine out and it sucks. Stay w/ the PCC. Sea gorget for cross reaper and spiral hell though. If you really want a good sea neck piece for guillotine get a justice torque ^^

That's funny cause I use nothing but soil gorget for my rampage/vorpal blade and my ACC is just fine.

How much Acc/Dex do you have besides Gorget? What food? Bard? Merits? Camp?

[Ryushii]

N00b question alert:

Is a sea gorget worth it for RNG? Assuming somewhat mediocre gear.

Also, which gorget would best best/easiest to obtain if the gorget was only needed for RNG?

[Not Seditedi]

Very worth it for RNG - Huge accuracy bonus
Breeze Gorget is the easiest to get and you can use that for Slug/Sidewinder.
I'd go with a Light Gorget to be honest though (little harder to get though, need 2 Yovra Organs :<)
But the extra time spent on it will be well worth it due to the fact you can use it for pretty much every WS you'll ever use (Slug/Side/Arching Arrow/Heavy Shot/Empyreal Arrow/Detonator).