Crustacean Conundrum

[Vhess]

Is Crustacean Conundrum solo-able by MNK? I haven't had the chance to give this a try, to si thought I'd ask if anybody else has. My plan was to start the fight by Hundred Fisting the main crab -- Heavy Metal Crab or whatever -- to death, then try to kill the other two normally through the liberal use of reraise and hi-potions. I'm just not sure if a) HF will kill Heavy Metal outright and b) if you can solo-melee the normal ones to death with regularity.

Anyone have experience trying this?

[BerenTebogo]

Is Crustacean Conundrum solo-able by MNK? I haven't had the chance to give this a try, to si thought I'd ask if anybody else has. My plan was to start the fight by Hundred Fisting the main crab -- Heavy Metal Crab or whatever -- to death, then try to kill the other two normally through the liberal use of reraise and hi-potions. I'm just not sure if a) HF will kill Heavy Metal outright and b) if you can solo-melee the normal ones to death with regularity.

Anyone have experience trying this?

This is the level 20 cap? Wouldn't it be easier to like..level SMN to 20? or whatever the normal strategy is than repeatedly using meds / RR for a BC20?

It seems like it /could/ work, but cost-benefit I'd ask why first.

[Budonez]

Is Crustacean Conundrum solo-able by MNK? I haven't had the chance to give this a try, to si thought I'd ask if anybody else has. My plan was to start the fight by Hundred Fisting the main crab -- Heavy Metal Crab or whatever -- to death, then try to kill the other two normally through the liberal use of reraise and hi-potions. I'm just not sure if a) HF will kill Heavy Metal outright and b) if you can solo-melee the normal ones to death with regularity.

Anyone have experience trying this?

I tried it MNK+RDM duo, Doesn't work, you need shadows or a lot of evasion (I wore a bit of evasion gear). It'll occasionally en-drain for 30 HP. I got it down to 60% then it drained itself back to full.

[Krye]

I tried it years back, don't remember our set-up, but I believe at least 2/3 of us were rdm doing dagger+enspell.

We wiped horribly and barely dented the crabs. En-drain is a killer.

Hope that helps.

[*Blaize*]

Is Crustacean Conundrum solo-able by MNK? I haven't had the chance to give this a try, to si thought I'd ask if anybody else has. My plan was to start the fight by Hundred Fisting the main crab -- Heavy Metal Crab or whatever -- to death, then try to kill the other two normally through the liberal use of reraise and hi-potions. I'm just not sure if a) HF will kill Heavy Metal outright and b) if you can solo-melee the normal ones to death with regularity.

Anyone have experience trying this?

Pretty positive it can't be soloed by MNK. I did this BC a while ago with RDM/NINx2 (dualwielding daggers) and NIN/WAR, and still lost sometimes due to NIN losing hate to the RDMs, that with no shadows got to be lucky to not proc Endrain. (Endrain is not 100%, though kicks in fairly often)

[ronin sparthos]

3mnk using Hundred Fists works.

Another idea is 2RDM each on the small crabs and a NIN kiting the big one until the 2smalls are dead. Enthunder with 2 fast daggers is how we did it. Once the 2 smalls are dead, everyone converge on the big crab.

[Raineer]

The problem with 100 fists is that the big crab you can only hit for 1 damage, correct?

I think this is why you almost need RDM/enspells for this.

[Vhess]

Is Crustacean Conundrum solo-able by MNK? I haven't had the chance to give this a try, to si thought I'd ask if anybody else has. My plan was to start the fight by Hundred Fisting the main crab -- Heavy Metal Crab or whatever -- to death, then try to kill the other two normally through the liberal use of reraise and hi-potions. I'm just not sure if a) HF will kill Heavy Metal outright and b) if you can solo-melee the normal ones to death with regularity.

Anyone have experience trying this?

This is the level 20 cap? Wouldn't it be easier to like..level SMN to 20? or whatever the normal strategy is than repeatedly using meds / RR for a BC20?

It seems like it /could/ work, but cost-benefit I'd ask why first.

I have an alternate character whose only job is 21 MNK. So I thought I'd see if I could make some money solo with this. SMN doesn't really work in this bcnm because no matter what you do, it either does 0 or 1 damage only, so Astral Flow wouldn't really dent them.

It sound like MNK wouldn't work solo, though, based on the feedback from those who have done this on MNK. Thanks for the feedback.

[Haunted]

pld and: rdm + mnk or mnk + mnk or rdm + rdm works well for this bcnm, although, uses 2hrs pld agros them all, then invincibles, mnk(s) HFs and rdm(s) melees w/ platoon dagger and enspell, then pld holds one while the rdm and mnk kill the other, then all 3 kill the last

when i did this had about a 90% win rate with pld mnk rdm, although, not a good strat for multiple runs

[Krye]

pld and: rdm + mnk or mnk + mnk or rdm + rdm works well for this bcnm, although, uses 2hrs pld agros them all, then invincibles, mnk(s) HFs and rdm(s) melees w/ platoon dagger and enspell, then pld holds one while the rdm and mnk kill the other, then all 3 kill the last

when i did this had about a 90% win rate with pld mnk rdm, although, not a good strat for multiple runs

En-drain won't go through invincible?

[Aihree]

A llong time ago me and some of my friends won this easily with two rdm/nins and a nin/war. The two rdms would bring fast daggers and enthunder, while the nin would tank the crab of the day. Strat was that one rdm would bind+silence big crab, one rdm would bind 1 little crab, and then all would take down one crab at a time starting with the crab that wasn't bound and working our way up to the big crab. When bind broke, kite the crab a little away, rebind, then come back to the fracas.

Nin had to bring a few hi-pots per BC, but with the price of hi-pots these days that is not a problem. 100% drop on mannequin body and 25%~ drop on head or hands, is not bad tradeoff.

i realize this doesn't help with the "I got a 21 mnk second character and..." situation, but this strat is an easy win nonetheless.

[Haunted]

pld and: rdm + mnk or mnk + mnk or rdm + rdm works well for this bcnm, although, uses 2hrs pld agros them all, then invincibles, mnk(s) HFs and rdm(s) melees w/ platoon dagger and enspell, then pld holds one while the rdm and mnk kill the other, then all 3 kill the last

when i did this had about a 90% win rate with pld mnk rdm, although, not a good strat for multiple runs

En-drain won't go through invincible?

never seemed to, although it was a hell of a long time ago i did this, might even have had pld just hold the 2 smaller ones while rdm and mnk killed the bigger one, really dont remember 100% atm, thinking of trying again w/ this set-up to get myself a body anyway, ill let you know

[Darkyrm]

I tried this BC two weeks ago for the first time thinking it was really easy but found it needs at least some planing

Went as Rdm - Mnk - Dnc binding big crab at start and killing one of the lessers at fast as posible, but thigs went messy after bind broke with the big and one remaining crab.

I can see the bc being smooth with the 2rdm 1nin strat using well bind but Im starting to think about leveling smn just to get the bodys because it seems less painful when all is said and done.

[Aihree]

If you're thinking of astral flowing this, think again. An astral flow blood pact will do the same damage as anything else: One (1) hp damage.

[Therin]

Extremely easy BC as long as you have 3 people with shadows (to solo the small ones and the third to hold the big one).

[Amok]

3 ppl with shadows? at 20 cap you'd need 3 nin's unless you count a whm with Blink. Platoon Dagger RDM is by far the best choice for this bcnm. Monk or any job soloing this would require you to be extreeeemely lucky with the drain additional effects. I had great results with THF RDM RDM. Both RDM's subbed THF for the evasion boost and THF was in there to aggro and PD.

[Zoot]

I used to farm this bc alot, I think I've lost it once do to glitch with someone getting stuck in the map. I go as NIN/WARx2 and RDM/NIN, everyone bring hipots as they're completely overpowered in lower level bcs and cheap because of assaults. Everyone used daggers and the RDM used enthunder.

I don't remember the order of the crabs, just to be completely honest, it's been at least year. I think this is how it went. First NIN kurayami's Heavy Metal crab, provokes it and starts running to the start while the RDM silences it and binds a metal crab, second NIN provokes the last metal crab and moves it abit away. Second NIN and RDM melee the last stated metal crab together, then move on to the bound crab.

Once the two metal crabs are dead everyone melees the heavy metal. I can't remember if I just left the Heavy metal unsilenced at first so the NIN had an easier time kiting it....but that's a possibility. Only food that was used was 1 pie for RDM for all three BC's, attack food makes no difference. We carried 6 hipots each for 3 bc's and it seemed to be enough.

[Xhu]

We always did this effortlessly with 3 rdm naked with beestingers.

RDM1: Bind Heavy Crab
RDM2: Silence Heavy Crab
RDM3: Bind right NQ crab

Never had any trouble with resists even nakid.

The other NQ crab will come running and all 3 rdm melee enspell it to death b4 the bind wears off on other 2 - its very fast.

When Bind wears on Metal rebind him and kill 2nd NQ crab all 3 rdm as above. As long as you keep NM bound & silenced and barwater up incase silence wears its NP. If bind breaks just rebind and move away.

Once the 2 NQ crabs are dead (and that part is very fast with 3 rdm and enspell) you all just melee the Heavy crab and bounce hate by curing whoever is getting hit. Keep barwater and silence on it.

Only items required were beestinger (or platoon - any fast dagger) and a yag drink per run just in case - most times didnt even use but helps if you get unlucky with the drain and it takes a bit longer.

100% win with no set up time.

[Gergall]

If you're thinking of astral flowing this, think again. An astral flow blood pact will do the same damage as anything else: One (1) hp damage.

Has anybody tried Ruinous Omen (Diabolos' astral flow)? I don't expect it to work, but I'm curious.

[Lotan]

I did it MNK/WAR RDM/WAR and RDM/BLM, but that was a long time ago. The other RDM dc'd so the MNK 100 fisted right off the bat on the big crab, but then the other RDM came back. We won without issue.

If I were to do it again, I'd go as a PUP. I'm pretty sure PUP would destroy the BC. Puppets have access to enthunder, and the master uses hand to hand which is pretty quick. That's 4 chances at 1 damage, and a PUP at level 20 can tank decently well(Especially with the WHM or RDM puppet).