Ixion Issue

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Last night we were fighting Ixion, and the damn thing kept going unclaimed... To the point that it almost got jacked at 3%

I believe it was due to the fact that our melee were running away and attacking other mobs for TP. Melee switch target, old target goes unclaimed. This was our 6th kill and we have NEVER had it happen like last night... must have went yellow at least 10+ times over the course of the fight, we usually have an army of rangers, so they can just TP off ixion, but yesterday we had I believe only 1 ranger, and a few melee/thf which made for a very messy fight. Any Ideas how to counter this (other then having less close range melee)? We have had very few numbers recently so trying to make due with what we have.

Thanks!

[nitsuj]

Last night we were fighting Ixion, and the damn thing kept going unclaimed... To the point that it almost got jacked at 3%

I believe it was due to the fact that our melee were running away and attacking other mobs for TP. Melee switch target, old target goes unclaimed. This was our 6th kill and we have NEVER had it happen like last night... must have went yellow at least 10+ times over the course of the fight, we usually have an army of rangers, so they can just TP off ixion, but yesterday we had I believe only 1 ranger, and a few melee/thf which made for a very messy fight. Any Ideas how to counter this (other then having less close range melee)? We have had very few numbers recently so trying to make due with what we have.

Thanks!

I guess I would recommend not TPing off other mobs? Maybe cycle in people with full TP into the main alliance just like you cycle through PLD's as Ixion rapes them?

Those Ixion fights are always a mess. We normally rely on RNG and SMN for DD's, so I'm not sure about the TPing on other mobs strat.

[Akanei]

Well, I don't know about Ixion, but I've been having it happen to other mobs as of late. /shrug

[LakshmiToralyn]

Almost got it jacked?

[Arcaneo]

The melee's need to turn away, and make sure the tank(s) have performed an action before disengaging/switching. This should stop Ixion from going unclaimed.
That is, unless they die before they get to disengage/switch.

[Hoshiku]

I know we had issues where Ixion went unclaimed when it does a trample to a far away tank and forced melee to disengage due to distance. Haven't had any issues in the last 6 kills though. I try to always have voke or shadowbind ready for claiming just in case it goes white. As far as melee's TPing on other stuff, make sure they wait before switching targets (disengage and make sure it goes purple). It would probably be even better if the just dropped from the ally before getting TP.

[Waef]

Don't disengage at all, even with other people doing stuff it can still go unclaimed for a moment due to bad timing. Like Arcaneo said, have them turn around, and make sure the tank does something before attacking another mob.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Almost got it jacked?

Yea Euwhoria came out to see the end, and not sure if he got a cure off on one of us, or a flash or what, but after it went yellow we got it back claimed and 2 seconds later he popped invincible. Didnt pull it off me, but still.

[Arkanna]

Yea Euwhoria came out to see the end, and not sure if he got a cure off on one of us, or a flash or what, but after it went yellow we got it back claimed and 2 seconds later he popped invincible. Didnt pull it off me, but still.

That guy is such a piece of shit.

[Tonyanjaii]

Have your melees drop pt get TP and rejoin when they're ready to dump their Tp...

[Flight_93]

Have your melees drop pt get TP and rejoin when they're ready to dump their Tp...

Changes nothing, they still have to wait for a 2nd action to disband.

[Jotaru]

If they don't, it'll be claimed to them, and only them, and it causes a nice lil clusterfawk. lawl. Used to have that happen to our kirins, melee would WS and immediately drop and would cause all sorts of fun havoc.

[Grandphoenix]

I think this arises when you use smns also like how bst/smn shells fight mobs and they randomly go yellow??

[Aragon of Odin]

Just have your melee's TP on his ass as well, was so much fun doing that and trying not to die.

[euph]

usually when you fight an NM for 4 hours and cycle paladins in with your melee at the top of the hate list... when the melee go out of range your mob goes white.

And fuck that faggot euwhoria

[Sev]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62793

Your linkshell was part of stealing an Ixion so honestly don't know why there would be any /shock about someone trying to steal from you... not that he wouldn't regardless. Basically when your melees are near the top and run off you risk it going white. Having people not on the hate list or near the top bring mobs to you solves the issue.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I think this arises when you use smns also like how bst/smn shells fight mobs and they randomly go yellow??

That only happens when you perform an action on a mob that doesn't belong to you, other than your intended target. For example, if you were to be fighting something, release your charmed pet, and then go charm another, you technically initiated an action on an entirely different target, causing yours to go yellow.

[Alibeemac]

Sleek this happened to us back in our first kill or 2. It is definately to do with melee tping on mobs within alliance. Just have them drop to tp and rejoin when they have it. We haven't had the problem again. Faster to kill it anyway with cycling in melee. Either that or just take SAMs and RNG who can TP on Ixion. Either way works and is fast. Can easily do a 45min kill that way.

As for the mob jacking, just factor into your kill strat that it is likely to be attempted to be jacked by them since they try and steal anything they can and have done since day 1. It is nothing new and part of end game now on Lakshmi *shrug*.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Actually Sevv, Did I ever say i was in shock? I didnt even bring up who jacked it till tora asked. Thats how lakshmi endgame is now, and it didnt start till you guys came to lakshmi. Ive dealt with it, I may shit talk your trash linkshell, but nothing you do surprises me, so ive learned to live with it.

1. We have killed it in less then an hour quite a few times, but like I said we didnt even have a full alliance and we only had 1 ranger compared to our 5-6 usual rangers. Last time I saw you guys fight it without an army of rangers it took a LOT longer then us, and led to that thread you linked. Sure you can kill it quick with that many rangers in the ally, but without it, you have no room to talk.

2. Like your melees never have hate? LOL every time I see your ls fight anything im garunteed to see at least 8 "XXX falls to lv 74" In fact I can usually see it even if you arent fighting. At least our linkshell doesnt delevel 10 times whild fighting an hnm.

3. We werent fighting it for 4 hours, nor cycling in plds. We had 2 plds that were in the alliance from start to finish and thats it.

4. Out of the 10+ times it went yellow, the melees had hate once, maybe twice.

Unless you have something productive to say, keep it out of the thread, for everyone who had real responses, thanks. I guess I will have to pay more attention to making sure they wait until I perform an action. Usually when one of our melees comes in for a ws, my first priority is curebombing them till my flash timer is up, I suppose its possible that they managed to get off a ws and engage another mob before my timer reset.

[Sev]

Actually Sevv, Did I ever say i was in shock? I didnt even bring up who jacked it till tora asked. Thats how lakshmi endgame is now, and it didnt start till you guys came to lakshmi. Ive dealt with it, I may shit talk your trash linkshell, but nothing you do surprises me, so ive learned to live with it.

1. We have killed it in less then an hour quite a few times, but like I said we didnt even have a full alliance and we only had 1 ranger compared to our 5-6 usual rangers. Last time I saw you guys fight it without an army of rangers it took a LOT longer then us, and led to that thread you linked. Sure you can kill it quick with that many rangers in the ally, but without it, you have no room to talk.

2. Like your melees never have hate? LOL every time I see your ls fight anything im garunteed to see at least 8 "XXX falls to lv 74" In fact I can usually see it even if you arent fighting. At least our linkshell doesnt delevel 10 times whild fighting an hnm.

3. We werent fighting it for 4 hours, nor cycling in plds. We had 2 plds that were in the alliance from start to finish and thats it.

4. Out of the 10+ times it went yellow, the melees had hate once, maybe twice.

Unless you have something productive to say, keep it out of the thread, for everyone who had real responses, thanks. I guess I will have to pay more attention to making sure they wait until I perform an action. Usually when one of our melees comes in for a ws, my first priority is curebombing them till my flash timer is up, I suppose its possible that they managed to get off a ws and engage another mob before my timer reset.

Look at the part about how to bring mobs to you. I am not here starting drama, also look at what I said regardless of the shell history Euph as with most of my shell would try to steal. It is how this server and well most servers with competition are. The only difference between us is I don't talk shit upon your shell (cuz bime and damyen will kill me =P)

re1: Yup alot of 2boxed accounts and straight up fail

re2: When did I talk about our melees and hate. Alot of our melees don't know how to ride the hate line, and I harass people who delevel every time they die like last night at the free Ixion walking around when we found it.

re3: Is the only thing you have the 4 hour fight we did once? There have been plenty of fights by shells on the server far worse. We normally dont cycle plds unless well they/support is failing hard. I have not talked about your shell fighting like shit have I?

re4: Yes what happens tho is when your melees are near the hate line and run well out of range for tp, if your plds happen to lose a good chunk of enmity it can shift quick to that melee making it go white/yellow for that second, while it seems your pld still has hate. It was why the best way for War Drk Etc. to tp is either have mobs brought to them via a extra rdm or melee training them towards your party or have them drop from the alliance. I am actually trying to help here sleek. Since you have issues with me but I really have none with you.