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  1. #1
    Melee Summoner
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    Windower; is it really safe?

    If this is already posted somewhere then I'm sorry.

    My question is, is the newest Windower safe to use without the possiblity of being suspended/banned?

    -I use windower for scripts only but I see people with a million different Plug-ins going on, like recast timers and stuff. Is this stuff safe? Can square really detect these plug-ins going on while you play? Also, could square even see youre using scripts when you have a ton of "Equipment Change" go down your screen?

    -I currently use an older version for just Scripts, so its the one where you just click on the icon and it starts up Playonline. However, the newest windower Installs onto your computer . . is this safe for information security?

    I may just be really paranoid but what is the deal with the newest windower and its wide array of plug-ins? Is it possible to be suspended or can your information get stolen through this stuff??

  2. #2
    Corwens a slot
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    Don't speed if you can't afford a ticket

    Don't use use 3rd party programs if you don't want any chance of getting banned.

    Everyone uses windower, doesn't mean you can't be suspended/banned for it, just means the risk is low enough for everyone to accept it.

  3. #3
    Banned.

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    You're being hacked right now just for asking about it.

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    I may just be really paranoid
    This

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    SE will close their servers if they perform a mass ban on anyone who uses a windower, be it using multiple plugins or not.

    Its like police only catching drug traffickers who sniff more than 1kg. BELOW 1KG IS FINE!

    dont make sense

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    Hydra
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    If SE banned every single windower user, across all servers the game would simply die, due to losing 60%+ of its population.

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    Hydra
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    at the end of the day, you still make the decision to use it or not yourself. what anyone else says doesn't matter. If you are getting banned, you are getting banned. What people say on BG forums is not a defense.

    Since the issue of risk tolerance is personal, it's entirely on you to determine whether you feel it is safe or not.

  8. #8
    Cerberus
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    Nothing in Windower besides IME can be detected, and even IME they generally just ask you to stop using it and give a warning.

    The only real way to be caught using it is to admit to using it in game and someone report you to a GM.

    And the new ver doesnt really 'install to your PC'. It's simply a self extractor to help newbs in using windower.

    And why would it be any different possibility of your account being stolen? Windower team is still the same people...

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    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrdude View Post
    If SE banned every single windower user, across all servers the game would simply die, due to losing 60%+ of its population.
    That's quite a number of people to assume use windower from windower.net

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    Relic Shield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuyu View Post
    That's quite a number of people to assume use windower from windower.net
    Being that more than 90% of the PC population uses the windower now I'd say that's a pretty good guess.

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    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Being that more than 90% of the PC population uses the windower now I'd say that's a pretty good guess.
    Still doubt this game would die because people would QQ over not being able to use windower.

  12. #12
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    They aren't saying it would die because people would QQ over not being able to use it, they're saying it would die if all Windower users get banned. So if 90% of PC users did use windower and they all got banned I'm pretty sure that this game would die.

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    Salvage Bans
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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Being that more than 90% of the PC population uses the windower now I'd say that's a pretty good guess.
    Where is that 90% coming from ?

  14. #14
    Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegetaa View Post
    Where is that 90% coming from ?
    The idealistic hope that 90% of the PC userbase doesn't consist of paranoid pussies.

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    Fuck yeah statistics

  16. #16
    Hydra
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    Hey no fair.

    Not all PC users who choose not to use Windower are 'paranoid pussies'.


    Some of us are simply stubborn, idealistic twats.

  17. #17
    Bagel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeke View Post
    Hey no fair.

    Not all PC users who choose not to use Windower are 'paranoid pussies'.


    Some of us are simply stubborn, idealistic twats.
    Paranoid pussies in costume.

  18. #18
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegetaa View Post
    Where is that 90% coming from ?
    10% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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    Relic Weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by zantes View Post
    10% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
    Your number seems low.

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    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayn View Post
    Your number seems low.
    It does emphasize my point though.

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