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  1. #1
    Nidhogg
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    Does Day/Weather affect Avatar acc/att

    Wondering if day/weather affected avatar stats or potency of physical bloodpacts.

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    Sea Torques
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    No.
    Prove me wrong.

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    Hopefully some future update will fix this or make it so that the days/weather affect avatars in some way other then the SMN AF2 Head/Body

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    It affects their Magical Damage!

    But it does that for everyone else too. eh, I like to think Garuda preforms better on Wind day, and Leviathan on Water day.

    Does that mean it does? god no.
    But does that mean i'm going to be using Leviathan on Water day? Yes. (Mostly because of my Relic body though)

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    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    It affects their Magical Damage!
    But it does that for everyone else too.
    But does that mean i'm going to be using Leviathan on Water day? Yes. (Mostly because of my Relic body though)
    ^ This.

    I do not think avatars miss more or hit for less on their opposite days /weather.
    But again without proper testing no response is going to be valid.

    Summoner is more hit and miss then pup.

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    Relic Shield
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    Summoner is more hit and miss then pup.
    Huh? I'm no smn or pup but seems to me the lvl 70 BPs are far more reliable than anything pup has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    Hopefully some future update will fix this or make it so that the days/weather affect avatars in some way other then the SMN AF2 Head/Body
    Please don't give them ideas. Knowing SE, they will probably break the whole damned game to hell by flipping a few switches.

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    I wish it did! But like the others said I will generally use the avatar of it's corresponding day for the relic body and/or magic damage boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin View Post
    No.
    Prove me wrong.
    yes.
    prove me wrong.

    it is largely unparsed, and with the variables between each summon and resummon, its almost impossible to tell or know.

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    Hydra
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    Quote Originally Posted by frodnonnag View Post
    and with the variables between each summon and resummon
    are you saying all my sparkle bunnies are not created equal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbrock View Post
    are you saying all my sparkle bunnies are not created equal?
    i personally think that there is a small variance in it, similar to how bst jugpets are called, but there's really evidence for both sides, biggest argument for consistency is netherblast damage.

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    the whitest knight u' know
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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Huh? I'm no smn or pup but seems to me the lvl 70 BPs are far more reliable than anything pup has.
    Cannibal Blade is incredibly reliable on HNM, just annoying to get TP fast while forcing it with Dark Maneuver. No one knows what PUP can do against anything difficult because a) they don't have a PUP, b) they don't have a well-equipped PUP, c) they don't have an intelligent PUP, d) they don't want to risk it, or e) all of the above.

    Also, Magic Mortar is still great if you put forth the ridiculous effort into the preparation.

    I miss that 1 week of 3000+ dmg Magic Mortars...

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    Sandworm Swallows
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    You forgot
    f) HNMls don't acknowledge that pup exists

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    Nidhogg
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    PUP with the right MAB attachments can do close to 2k on Tier 4 nukes because they get like +90 MAB.

    And Sharpshot's Armor Piercer ws does like 1800 on Birds, i assume it can do a lot on HNM too especially because unlike Sidewinder, Armor Piercer doesn't have a negative accuracy function, not to mention things like Heat Seeker and Scope

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    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Apparently someone didn't get the gumball machine reference to pup .......

    That's what I was hinting at, I've seen 70 naked smn have their avatars bust higher damage BP then people who are decked out and fully merited.

    Shit is just



    Random.

    Kind of like fire maneuvers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    Apparently someone didn't get the gumball machine reference to pup .......

    That's what I was hinting at, I've seen 70 naked smn have their avatars bust higher damage BP then people who are decked out and fully merited.

    Shit is just



    Random.
    I have full smn magic/avatar acc/attk merits and better gear than my friend and his avatars constantly do better damage than mine. It makes no amount of sense whatsoever, really irks me because if I put all that work and time into the job I should be better just math-wise.

    Needs fixing =(

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    From what I've experienced, only magic BPs are affected. I tried Anrin Obi with Fenrir (wtf was I thinking?), and on Darksday did... nothing. Didn't test Astral Flow with it.

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    the whitest knight u' know
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    Wouldn't it be more appropriate to be testing Diabolos on darksday? I was under the impression that Fenrir is only lolmoon-based.

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    Was too long ago to remember tbh. I'll test it when the day changes to one of the four obis I have =S

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    magic damage yes

    astral flow

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