Mythic Scythe - Liberator

[Kirschy]

I ran a bunch of initial tests, and I plan to run a lot more. I'll keep the thread updated~

Aftermath Effect Lv1:
Increases Accuracy. Accuracy gain is proportional to TP, and is linear.
100 tp = +10 acc
150 tp = +15 acc
160 tp = +16 acc
190 tp = +19 acc
199 tp = +19 acc
*10tp= +1 acc

Aftermath Effect Lv2:
Increases Attack. Attack gain is proprtional to TP, and is linear.
200 tp = +20 attack
210 tp = +24 attack
250 tp = +40 attack
260 tp = +44 attack
295 tp = +58 attack
299 tp = +59 attack
*2.5tp = +1 attack

Aftermath Effect Lv3:
( Speculation: ) +45% DA Rate

To test Lv3 Aftermath I used Insurgency at 300TP and then recorded on paper each attack round being a single hit or DA. Mobs used were crabs/Lizards/fire elemental in Kuftal Tunnel. I was DRK/DRG with no DA+ gear on. I did not count the final hit on the mob (unless it was a DA.)

132 DA, 284 total attack rounds. (~46.5%) I will increase my sample size later.

I then repeated the test as /WAR using Brutal, Askar Body, Ares Legs, Pole Strap. (~21% DA+)

I did not attack three times after 96 hits, so I assume it's not possible. But my DA rate was 62 DA in 96 attack rounds. (~65%.) The Lv3 Aftermath appears to stack with DA+. I will increase sample size later.

It's already been reported, but I will repeat anyway:
Lv1 Aftermath can overwrite Lv1 Aftermath, only.
Lv2 Aftermath can overwrite Lv1 Aftermath, only.
Lv3 Aftermath can overwrite Lv1 or Lv2 Aftermath, only.
Lv1 Duration is 60 seconds.
Lv2 Duration is 90 seconds.
Lv3 Duration is 120 seconds.

Note: If you try to WS while out of range on the mob (xxx is too far away.) You will NOT get the Mythic Aftermath.
This is not the same as Relic WS. I tested /w Apoc, and Apoc will still gain relic aftermath when too far away.

Note 2: If you change weapons while aftermath is active, the aftermath effect will wear off. This is the same as Relic Weapons.

Note 3: Liberator is not Piercing Damage.


Augments "Absorb" Spells:
Appears to just add +3 to any stat absorbed. (Tested on Abs-Acc too, it's +21 accuracy Absorbed now.)
Abs-TP will still absorb 0 TP when mob has no TP.
No apparant change to Abs-TP.
Equipping Dark Magic Skill+ items does not change Absorb potency.
Duration does not change, decay does not appear to change.

I'll have more time this weekend to try testing other aspects of Mythic, and parse it out during some events and merit situations. If you have any ideas you'd like tested, just reply to this thread~

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[Colenzo]

How long do the effects on the different effects?

[Kirschy]

oops~

Lv1 - 60 seconds
Lv2 - 90 seconds
Lv3 - 120 seconds

[Max™]

First, grats Kirschy, now figure out how to dual wield them!

Second, @colenzo: wut?

[Kirschy]

First, grats Kirschy, now figure out how to dual wield them!

Thanks~ Anddddddd maybe I find some duct tape I can make a Swallow weapon out of it like Serge uses in Chrono Cross?

[Nameless]

So if you start at 300% tp initially, you got 120 sec of 45% double attack. During that period you can spam guillotine a number of times depends on haste and hit build. Then you will need about 10 attack rounds to regain 300% and keep the double attack. Pretty sexy if done right I think. With a 528 delay scythe, you can probably do 5 hit build occasionally if you stack on STP.

Also, is it possible that augment absorb is 20% increase instead of a fixed +3? I think you might get 20% more from absorb tp. Give it a try.

[Kirschy]

So if you start at 300% tp initially, you got 120 sec of 45% double attack. During that period you can spam guillotine a number of times depends on haste and hit build. Then you will need about 10 attack rounds to regain 300% and keep the double attack. Pretty sexy if done right I think. With a 528 delay scythe, you can probably do 5 hit build occasionally if you stack on STP.

Also, is it possible that augment absorb is 20% increase instead of a fixed +3? I think you might get 20% more from absorb tp. Give it a try.

Yea, I'll be trying different playstyles and seeing how they parse.

As for Absorbs, that might be it. Abs-TP is so inconsistant, that I'll have trouble getting an accurate read on it. I have a few tests in mind to see if there's any noticable change in /w Abs-TP.

[Shenrien]

Grats on your mythic! that's a lot of extensive testing, very interesting to know that the mythic weapon skill doesn't need to go off for the aftermath to kick in.

[Flight_93]

Grats Kirsch~

I plan to setup a statustimer custom counter to help manage TP during merit.

I'm assuming AM1~3 have different IDs to allow for this, but maybe you can do a quick test using toggleextinfo?

(my sigs out of date, but should be on track to finish Mini-poc this weekend ..inc +20% mijin?) http://tarusodelicious.com/phpBB3/im...n_stressed.gif

[Odin'sLaw]

does it have any effect with V mufflers or drain and aspir?

[Gergall]

Abs-TP is so inconsistant, that I'll have trouble getting an accurate read on it. I have a few tests in mind to see if there's any noticable change in /w Abs-TP.

Does anyone know if Dark Seal makes Absorb-TP consistent?

Edit: Instead of screwing up your merits, what about /BLM Elemental Seal?

[Kirschy]

I don't have V Mufflers, but the Enhance "Absorb" from Onyx Cuisses stacks as you'd expect by just increasing the duration.

I have Dark Seal, but it doesn't make Abs-TP more consistant, it just reduces the resistance rate.

There's different text listed at the top for each aftermath effect, so I'm fairly certian it's 3 seperate icons. I use statustimer plugin to judge when AM3 is going to wear so I can reapply. Works great for me.

[Humblejoe]

A big congrats Kirs^^

[Kaylia]

Might want to add this to the first post for completion sake.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...iberatorid.png


Is there any hope it outpost Apocalypse?


Also, grats and thanks for the testing.

[Starr]

Aftermath Effect Lv1:
Increases Accuracy. Accuracy gain is proportional to TP, and is linear.
100 tp = +10 acc
150 tp = +15 acc
160 tp = +16 acc
190 tp = +19 acc
199 tp = +19 acc
*10tp= +1 acc

Aftermath Effect Lv2:
Increases Attack. Attack gain is proprtional to TP, and is linear.
200 tp = +20 attack
210 tp = +24 attack
250 tp = +40 attack
260 tp = +44 attack
295 tp = +58 attack
299 tp = +59 attack
*2.5tp = +1 attack

[Dimmauk]

You have a Screenshot? Or is it on the Screenshot thread already?

[Yugl]

Is there any hope it outpost Apocalypse?

If you can reach the haste cap without Apoc, then it should out damage Apoc due to DA for 2hr Zerg situations no?

[Kaylia]

If you can reach the haste cap without Apoc, then it should out damage Apoc due to DA for 2hr Zerg situations no?

I was talking about your average merit situation more than zerg.

[Jakson]

If you can reach the haste cap without Apoc, then it should out damage Apoc due to DA for 2hr Zerg situations no?

From my understanding, magic haste capping at 43.3%, and DB 5/5 25% (or DB 3/5 and Hasso), means you only need 12% Haste in gear to match that to reach the 80% cap, and that's pretty easy, Turban+Swift+NQ Dusk could do that. Course, what else are you gonna put in spots?

[Max™]

Homam hands/feet/Vbelt, AF+1 head, Ares legs, Ebody?