Syntlevel up rate close to cap?

[kimi]

Hi there, I have a slight "Problem" with my cooking

I am at 67,8 or 67.9 synthing "Pear au Lait" (Cap 72) en mass. (which is quite close to cap for next rank <_<)

I did everything to match my Modification to 3-5, with all possible amplification, also those direction and day things which probably are neglectable.

Thing is, on ~60 synths i got a single 0.1 up, after the first 5 than nothing.


I read the "Stupid questions thread", and was thinking to myself .. "25-33% should that be more often than once in 55 synths?"


Is this synth to low?
Am I just out of Luck?
What else might be a reason?
Which synths are better than pear au lait at that level? ( Something stackable or with less gil loss when vendoring :D)

And another question, which crafts are "must haves" for high cooking, besides fishing?

[BerenTebogo]

Hi there, I have a slight "Problem" with my cooking

I am at 67,8 or 67.9 synthing "Pear au Lait" (Cap 72) en mass. (which is quite close to cap for next rank <_<)

I did everything to match my Modification to 3-5, with all possible amplification, also those direction and day things which probably are neglectable.

Thing is, on ~60 synths i got a single 0.1 up, after the first 5 than nothing.


I read the "Stupid questions thread", and was thinking to myself .. "25-33% should that be more often than once in 55 synths?"


Is this synth to low?
Am I just out of Luck?
What else might be a reason?
Which synths are better than pear au lait at that level? ( Something stackable or with less gil loss when vendoring :D)

And another question, which crafts are "must haves" for high cooking, besides fishing?

Keep crafting. Shit happens. Took me hundreds of synths to go 99-100 in leather due to bad luck and going 0/12 on batches of synths repeatedly.

Nothing to be done about it.

[Vodou]

Hi there, I have a slight "Problem" with my cooking

I am at 67,8 or 67.9 synthing "Pear au Lait" (Cap 72) en mass. (which is quite close to cap for next rank <_<)

I did everything to match my Modification to 3-5, with all possible amplification, also those direction and day things which probably are neglectable.

Thing is, on ~60 synths i got a single 0.1 up, after the first 5 than nothing.


I read the "Stupid questions thread", and was thinking to myself .. "25-33% should that be more often than once in 55 synths?"


Is this synth to low?
Am I just out of Luck?
What else might be a reason?
Which synths are better than pear au lait at that level? ( Something stackable or with less gil loss when vendoring :D)

And another question, which crafts are "must haves" for high cooking, besides fishing?

Try squid sushi and move on to maybe dhamel pie, etc. The options don't look so hot from a quick look, but no craft is perfect.

Not knowing exactly when you crafted the .1 or not, the only other thing I can guess is that during a maintenance they changed the recipe level to below where you are, so technically you no longer can skill up.

SE sometimes moves recipe levels and sometimes breaks synths. (no pun intended.) From a purely random luck consideration, it's not possible to synth 55 straight with no skill up if you are within 5 below the level. So, I would deduce: a) you are not below the level, you are at or above the level or b) the synth recipe has been broken

Use FFXIAH to review a lot of synth options on your server to see which ones lose the least money / make a profit and you can often link from that page to wiki to see what they NPC for. Crafting above 60 can be done using guides, but it's probably better to not follow them too closely since every server has a different amount of available material and prices.

I have a friend who is 100 cooking and he does not have any other craft leveled really. Go figure.

[cdgreg]

Op said he got .1 so it's not the cap. It's just shitty luck period, keep pushing through you'll get there.

[Michelob]

Keep crafting. Shit happens. Took me hundreds of synths to go 99-100 in leather due to bad luck and going 0/12 on batches of synths repeatedly.

Nothing to be done about it.

When finishing Woodworking to 100 I went through 127 Kinkobos going from 99-100 spamming them in a couple 40 synth sessions but when I finished my Goldsmithing a few months later It only took me 18 synths to get from 99-100 doing 1 or 2 rings at a time. Skill up rates can be so random.

[urat]

Another important note for leveling synthing is the list of recipes is not always up to date.

For example on otherwiki I've spent a month trying to find something for 80s, and then stumbled upon Teak logs -> Teak lumber, a perfect lv 85 synth, but was not listed under the list of woodworking recipes

Do some more looking around different places and you may stumble on a new recipe SE added for wotg that is the perfect level for you.

[Vodou]

Op said he got .1 so it's not the cap. It's just shitty luck period, keep pushing through you'll get there.

I don't think you understood my post.

I mentioned the .1 and I mentioned maintenance. If he got a .1 and then there was a maintenance that LOWERED the skill level of the item he was crafting sufficiently, it could cause exactly what he is reporting.

SE does this. Sorry if you think craft levels never change.

Moreover they do screw up recipes.

I don't care if OP wants to craft 5 or 500 more to test the theory, but for me, I'd do a new recipe. My head is not that hard to bang that brick wall.

Personally, I've done around 400 levels of crafting including mules and I've never seen what some people are talking about but I do know SE messes up recipes and changes levels of recipes. I just would go with the flow and change recipes before I did insane numbers of synths.

Statistics on this are pretty simple and when you get stupid results its not "bad luck", its broke.

[cdgreg]

I don't think you understood my post.

I mentioned the .1 and I mentioned maintenance. If he got a .1 and then there was a maintenance that LOWERED the skill level of the item he was crafting sufficiently, it could cause exactly what he is reporting.

SE does this. Sorry if you think craft levels never change.

Moreover they do screw up recipes.

I don't care if OP wants to craft 5 or 500 more to test the theory, but for me, I'd do a new recipe. My head is not that hard to bang that brick wall.

Personally, I've done around 400 levels of crafting including mules and I've never seen what some people are talking about but I do know SE messes up recipes and changes levels of recipes. I just would go with the flow and change recipes before I did insane numbers of synths.

Statistics on this are pretty simple and when you get stupid results its not "bad luck", its broke.

Sure recipe caps can and do change. In addition, at no point did I ever say they can't, and at no point did the OP mention crafting the .1 before maintenance and then 50+ with no skill up after. If I misunderstood your post then my bad, both of your theories are completely plausible, I just thought you had missed his comment about getting the .1. I know little to nothing about statics, at what exact point does bad luck turn into broke, because I've seen some pretty ridiculous "lucky" streaks in the various HQ threads that people didn't scream "broke" at.

[Mistress Stowastiq]

Hi there, I have a slight "Problem" with my cooking

I am at 67,8 or 67.9 synthing "Pear au Lait" (Cap 72) en mass. (which is quite close to cap for next rank <_<)

I did everything to match my Modification to 3-5, with all possible amplification, also those direction and day things which probably are neglectable.

Thing is, on ~60 synths i got a single 0.1 up, after the first 5 than nothing.


I read the "Stupid questions thread", and was thinking to myself .. "25-33% should that be more often than once in 55 synths?"


Is this synth to low?
Am I just out of Luck?
What else might be a reason?
Which synths are better than pear au lait at that level? ( Something stackable or with less gil loss when vendoring :D)

And another question, which crafts are "must haves" for high cooking, besides fishing?

Gardening to grow your own crystals and food supplies.
Woodworking to make your own maple sugar when Sandy comes in low rank for conquest. Also for Rice dumplings.
Alchemy for honey from beehivechips
Harvesting/logging for maple logs and herbs in sweet rice cakes and ingredients
Always check the npc per level for recipe when you can't decide on a synth.
If you cant skill up, take off your uniform and any +skill moghancements and synth with no augments to skill. Also try on the mog tablets artesian advantage days. Nudge up or down a few synths to find a sweet spot. This always worked for me. I tend to be a bit imaginative and superstitious though.

Stuff you can synth now: (Sometimes you are synthing too high of a cap to get good skill ups like Pear au lait. If this happens, go down a bit and try that.) Helps to have mules to hold food so you can patiently sell stuff as trends rise and fall.

68-70 Sandiorian Tea:
Sometimes bst/brd buy it for chr from you but if you farm your own honey it's cheap. Npc the produce (not at proud beard) or put it into mules to slowly sell on the auction.

70-78 Dhalmel pie, Rarab meatballs, Buch au choclat:
Once you get to 70 farm your own onions and mind regional vendors for price cuts. Some people like RR meatballs once they actually know the stats. I have customers who come to me regularly for it since no one makes it to sell. Dhalmel pie is nice low level food for expers and has a moderate ah market. Grow your kukru beans for chocolate, they make large crops per pot. Buche is a Nice npc sale price if its not during a holiday for bizarre.

79-85 Cream puffs (key item), Chamomile Tea, Pumpkin Pie, :
If you watch the jeuno kitten for low price day on the Ulag milk, you can sell your Cream Puffs on the auction and do pretty good with costs. Regional vendors for cinnamon in winning nations. Chamomile tea is cheap if you again farm your honey/chips. Same produce sales as Sandy tea.

87-90 Marron Glace, Rolanberry pie:
Chestnuts are in sandy for Marron glace. Mages like Marron Glace. Mages eat RB pie like crack. Try to get by to maximum cap from skilling on RB pies as soon as you can. With the high sale rate, I started off with RB pies way early on like as soon as the synth was possible to do (over 5 synths below cap). Double timed with some Marron Glace and ignored the breaks, low skill ups because the profit was substantial. I also make my own pie dough/butter instead of buying it.

93-95 Flounder Meuniere, Rice Dumplings (ww sub), :
Flounder, go fishing. Dumplings, grow or buy your coral fungas if it's not too expensive. Mind tenshodo fame for bamboo and sushi in the future.

99 Sweet rice cakes:
Harvest your Fresh Mugwort in Saruta and the nearby Yagudo outpost , they are rather plentiful if you are patient.

100-Red curry is the only recipe I know of. Ask npc's in the cooking guild for recipes when you are 93-99.

good luck

[kimi]

Thank you for all your tipps, just some new questions now

when SE changes Caps, Do they say so? and if yes where >_<

Is there anywhere a beginner friendly how to for gardening? pikkospots confused me, and even so I did everything the pages said, i got something else ;_;

Same for harvesting, only did lumbering and mining yet :D

last question, the npc recipes, are they for you current skillcap or things that are best to synth on

Ill try some of the synths you told me ^^