[20:30:08](Nis) Del why do you tank in Hauby?
[20:30:21](Delarius) acc and atk of course
[20:30:26](Nis) but why?
[20:30:27](Delarius) Ô'AtonementÔ( spamming
[20:30:34](Elmaunie) but its hate based
[20:30:41](Elmaunie) no matter what your acc and att are at
[20:30:43](Nis) you would take more dmg in it
[20:30:50](Nis) and el is right
[20:31:01](Delarius) its hate based, not enmity based
[20:31:05](Elmaunie) the more hate u have the more dmg u do, up to 750
[20:31:07](Elmaunie) unless its undead
[20:31:28](Anastriana) you need TP to use atonement
[20:31:38](Anastriana) can;t get TP if you're going whiff whiff
[20:31:39](Elmaunie) yeah but not -eva
[20:31:48](Jolena) and with more acc and atk, he gets to hit harder, too
[20:31:55](Delarius) - eva as if this matter on any thing hard for PLD
[20:32:00](Nis) acc is easyer to find on other gear than making your eva-
[20:32:02](Jolena) pld has too low an eva score for it to matter

[20:32:04](Anastriana) have you seen the evasion rating on a PLD nis

[20:32:11](Nis) yes
[20:32:44](Anastriana) if -evasion makes a difference to a PLD's getting hit rate, you don't need a PLD
[20:32:54](Anastriana) because you're fighting something Even match
[20:33:03]Daedalus uses Seigan.
[20:33:26](Nis) right but your going to take more dmg with hauby than anything else for pld
[20:33:38](Elmaunie) heh makes no difference to me, i just dont understand why choose it xD
[20:34:01](Anastriana) only by a handful of points
[20:34:11](Anastriana) DEF and VIT are worthless past a certain point
[20:34:12](Nis) no lol
[20:34:24](Nis) most pld gear gives +10 more deff and +vit
[20:34:37](Anastriana) if you look on the wiki there's a graph, i think it's 400 DEF it levels out/90 vit
[20:35:20](Nis) so your saying pld vit cap is 90?
[20:35:25](Anastriana) not cap
[20:35:36](Anastriana) it never caps
[20:35:40](Nis) right
[20:35:45](Anastriana) but it's not a linear progression
[20:35:47](Nis) so more vit is better than none
[20:35:50](Anastriana) it's logarithmic/exponential
[20:35:52](Jolena) the more you add, the less additionnal vit will do
[20:36:04](Delarius) true, but does it really matter when blink tanking?
[20:36:07](Nis) of corse
[20:36:30](Nis) but why leave vit off just coz it does less
[20:36:40](Nis) thats as bad as telling a war to stack less str
[20:36:52](Delarius) cause if you spam atonement you'll make the fight last less
[20:36:57](Delarius) so vit won'T matter as much
[20:37:10](Anastriana) that's a retarded comparison, because strength is a linear progression
[20:37:18](Nis) but you would take more dmg is what im saying
[20:37:28](Delarius) not if I'm blink tanking
[20:37:39](Nis) also with + emn on some of the bodys you will get more for Atonement
[20:37:59](Delarius) +enm only apply when I'm doing smthing
[20:38:07](Nis) correct
[20:38:13](Nis) which you are lol tanking
[20:38:24](Anastriana) tanking isn't jsut damage mitigation
[20:38:32](Anastriana) else we'd use nothing but RDM's
[20:38:33](Delarius) yeah I switch gear like a madman also
[20:38:38](Delarius) to get enmity when it count
[20:38:39](Nis) i never said it was
[20:38:52](Jolena) when he's attacking, the dmg he adds with hauby is worth more than the +enmity gear he could wear otherwise
[20:39:01](Nis) no way
[20:39:09](Jolena) got 2 on me filthy
[20:39:11](Anastriana) on stuff like gods, switching from a hauby to say, koenig body is going to save about 5 damage a hit
[20:39:32](Delarius) of course I deal like 5-6 time the melee damage I would in enmity gear when meleeing
[20:39:34](Nis) have you tested that ana?
[20:39:44](Anastriana) Nis: go download one of the FFXI calculators
[20:39:55](Nis) thats not what i asked
[20:40:10](Nis) you can't make comment on stuff you have no exp in
[20:40:21](Nis) i was asking del a simple question
[20:40:27](Anastriana) >_>
[20:40:31](Anastriana) that's me told then