Ms. Universe Canada contestant kicked for being born a boy

[zoobernut]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st_read_module

A beauty pageant has booted a contestant out the competition after discovering the buxom blonde was born a boy.
The Miss Universe Canada organizers threw out Jenna Talackova when they found out she had undergone surgery to become a woman.
The transgendered contestant had already successfully reached the finals in the Miss Vancouver pageant before she was banned from continuing in the competition.
Although the pageant organizers described Talackova as a ‘real girl’ they disqualified her arguing that the rules state that each contestant must be a ‘naturally born female.’
According to Denis Davila, the national director of Miss Universe Canada, Talackova claimed on her registration form she was born a female.
But becoming suspicious Davila confronted the 23-year-old about her sex change and the contestant admitted she was actually born a male.
Despite her pleas to stay in the pageant her confession meant that she was pulled from the contest that same day.
'She feels like a real girl and she is a real girl. She didn’t expect people to question it,' Davila told thestar.com.
'She was hoping we could put her back in the competition, but the rules are very clear and there’s no way we can go back on it.'
The decision from the Miss Universe Canada pageant, which is owned by Donald Trump, has sparked outrage with people calling for Jenna to be reinstated into the contest.
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Suspicious: The transgendered beauty queen was kicked out after pageant organizers became suspicious that the contestant was not a 'naturally born female' as she stated in her registration form

Beauty queen: Jenna Talackova, fourth from right, has competed in a Miss Universe contest before
People have taken to social media pages to express their disgust with one Facebook user writing on the pageant's page: 'Tell us what "requirements" did she not make? This reeks of discrimination...'
In a YouTube interview Talackova says she knew she was a female at the age of four and began hormone therapy ten years later.
And the 23-year-old beauty queen, who has competed in Miss Universe pageants and transgendered pageants before, says that she surgically changed her gender aged 19.

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‘I regard myself as a woman with a history,’ Talackova says winking to the camera.
A statement from Miss Universe Canada read: ‘Jenna Talackova from Vancouver, British Columbia will not compete in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada competition because she did not meet the requirements to compete despite having stated otherwise on her entry form.


'Real girl': The pageant organizers recognised Jenna as a 'real girl' but still booted her out the competition

All woman: Jenna missed out on being crowned International Queen 2010 after losing out to Miss Korea (pictured)

Standing tall: Jenna cuts a fine figure of a woman
‘We do, however, respect her goals, determination and wish her the best.’
Talackova's profile has already been removed from the Miss Universe Canada website.
Davila added: ‘Just because she can't compete doesn't mean we stopped loving her.’


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Thread title pretty much says it all. What do you guys think? I don't see the harm in letting her compete.

Edit: There are pictures of her in the article for the curious.

[Pirian]

There's somebody we're suppose to ask about transgender rights...

[Alleya]

She looks more feminine than half the other contestants.

[Byrthnoth]

I've never paid attention to how these competitions actually work, but if there is any public voting involved she'd be fucked even if everyone else was Susan Boyle-tier ugly now that this has gotten out.

[Brill Weave]

There's somebody we're suppose to ask about transgender rights...

That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

[zoobernut]

Just think she might want to use *gasp* the womens dressing/changing room.

[Cream Soda]

I have no problem with people who get surgery and take hormones to change their appearance, but regardless of how they feel, they're still the gender they were born with.

If it was a female only competition, then I'd see why they didn't want him to compete, the same way females shouldn't be allowed into male only competitions

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly...hfy5o1_500.png

[Sera]

The article says she had surgery to become a woman at 19. I assume this means she has a vagina now. IMO having a vagina AT CURRENT should be fine, needing one from birth seems unnecessary for the purposes of the contest

that in mind i'd say she should be reinstated/allowed to compete

[Ragnus]

Bitches just angry they lost to a dude.

[Mertron]

The article says she had surgery to become a woman at 19. I assume this means she has a vagina now. IMO having a vagina AT CURRENT should be fine, needing one from birth seems unnecessary for the purposes of the contest

that in mind i'd say she should be reinstated/allowed to compete

no

the only reason to watch these contests is to fap with the lights out, and i dont want to find out im fapping to ex cock

[zoobernut]

no

the only reason to watch these contests is to fap with the lights out, and i dont want to find out im fapping to ex cock

That would totally make you gay right? I mean inside out penis is still a penis.

[JigglyJam]

Are there rules against appearance altering surgeries?

[Sera]

Bitches just angry they lost to a dude.

yeah the whole thing smacks of MAYAD/JEALOUS

[Sera]

Are there rules against appearance altering surgeries?

considering no one shows their vagina during the pageant this seems rather.. eh

[Sera]

no

the only reason to watch these contests is to fap with the lights out, and i dont want to find out im fapping to ex cock

too bad, you are, deal w/ it

[Kohan]

I have no problem with people who get surgery and take hormones to change their appearance, but regardless of how they feel, they're still the gender they were born with.

This statement implies a fundamental misunderstanding as to what "gender" is. Gender is defined by the social characteristics applied to an individual. If someone is feminine, and/or identifies as a woman, their gender is female.

"Sex" refers not only to the physical genitalia the person possesses, but also their biological state, among other factors.

Now, one could walk away from this and say "well then, change "gender" to "sex" and the statement is equally accurate," but that isn't true. As you mentioned, people may take hormonal supplements that directly affect their biology. Furthermore, surgery can change their genitalia, which is the primary and most universally understood indicator of one's sex.

Considering, someone who has the gender identity of a female and has undergone everything possible to have the sex of a woman is, in fact, a woman. That's all there is to it—what else would you call them, after all, an "in the middle"?—and anything else is disingenuous.

[JigglyJam]

considering no one shows their vagina during the pageant this seems rather.. eh

I was thinking more like breasts/facial reconstruction.

Though we don't know what surgeries she underwent.

[Rhyis.]

The transgendered beauty queen was kicked out after pageant organizers became suspicious that the contestant was not a 'naturally born female' as she stated in her registration form

... Why? She/He/It has a pretty bangin' body.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...10_306x528.jpg

I mean, look at her competition.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...39_634x321.jpg

Half the chicks in that picture actually look like dudes... Third from the left. WHAT IS THAT!?

[Yuri-G]

yeah I'm conflicted on this. I can see their point, and if it's in the rules that contestants have to be a natural-born female they do have the right to kick her out. on the other hand, I'm leaning toward "oh who the fuck cares, just let her compete."

that's assuming the pageant has no rules against plastic surgery; that would be a whole other ballgame.

[JigglyJam]

Oh good god the third from the left definitely had work done. Terrible too.