Campaign Death without Tags

[Toxictaru]

This is kind of silly. If you're trying to make it to an Arbiter to get tags, you shouldn't be able to aggro the damn mobs on the way. It doesn't inspire a whole lot of faith if you're trying to make it to the arbiter and die halfway there before of either bullshit aggro from the mobs you're trying to fend off or take damage from their AoE without even being on their hate list.

Just now, some Shadow mobs were kicking ass at Saruta, and I was dodging my way there, and avoided everything, but standing at the Arbiter, I somehow took AoE damage and got slept, and then promptly died because no one else was around.... So of course, I lost EXP, which, as far as I'm concerned, is fucking stupid. The mobs need to be non-aggro to people who have yet to get tags, or to people who have not acted on people who already have tags (so as to avoid "PLing" Campaign).

[Lucavi]

SE's response: Its war?

[ronin sparthos]

Its war, i advise a 'tactical retreat' if you see mobs with swords over there heads

It always was stupid that Besieged Mobs didnt kill everything from where they start to the Al Zahbi zoneline.

Just for realisms sake.

[Zacas1]

last i knew... they wont aggro unless you're already participating... though they will link. If you do something that attacks them, of course they'll react to it.
I do agree with the whole AoEs shouldn't hit you unless you joined the campaign)... but to add to this... the campaign mobs shouldn't link with non-campaign mobs.
Side Note: I also wish they'd change campaign back to allow self-buffs to earn some xp...

[BRP]

AoEs on Campaign monsters shouldn't be hit normal monsters. "Oh, cool, Pixie has joined the battl-THUNDAGA III, OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"

[Alibeemac]

Last week I signed up to do Campaign in West Saru [s] on my BRD since I was too lazy to change jobs and wanted to try it out since hadn't done it yet really. Died pretty quick due to a Yag NM aoe. When I died I noticed my sword above my name disappeared... Someone R1'd me and sure enough, bye bye 1.2k exp
First thing I did was check my log and sure enough it said 'You are now participating in the allied campaign' or w/e the wording is. Stupid glitch ;; Ending up negative exp after doing campaign sucked

[NeoReign]

AoEs on Campaign monsters shouldn't be hit normal monsters. "Oh, cool, Pixie has joined the battl-THUNDAGA III, OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"

I lol'd

[Toxictaru]

SE fixed it.

[Eldelphia]

AoEs on Campaign monsters shouldn't be hit normal monsters. "Oh, cool, Pixie has joined the battl-THUNDAGA III, OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"

I thundaga'd a whole heap of quads in N Gusta S and hit a pixie - totally unintentional. They're pretty hard to sleep. I bound it in the end and legged it to the tele guy.

[Kyreth]

You can also outrun the little fellas if you accidentally tap one- I generally Sleepga and scoot (in case it decided to Blink). They don't follow if you get any decent amount of distance before they wake up- I accidentally -ga'd one about halfway between Giddeus and the West Sarutabaruta fortifications, and it didn't follow me from there after getting a nap break.

[Thistle]

SE fixed it.

They only fixed the AoE damage part. I've been killed by campaign mobs three times outside of campaign (three R1s eaten >< ), and only one death was because of AoE.

Both of the others I was standing at the NPC trying to get flagged (but couldn't target the NPC because for lord knows what reason F8 won't target the flag NPC) and a campaign NM walked over and one-shotted me. Unflagged, one-shotted. Grr.

[Xanthe]

SE fixed it.

They only fixed the AoE damage part. I've been killed by campaign mobs three times outside of campaign (three R1s eaten >< ), and only one death was because of AoE.

Both of the others I was standing at the NPC trying to get flagged (but couldn't target the NPC because for lord knows what reason F8 won't target the flag NPC) and a campaign NM walked over and one-shotted me. Unflagged, one-shotted. Grr.

Campaign mobs won't aggro you if you're not flagged unless you engage/cast on them.

[Thistle]

SE fixed it.

They only fixed the AoE damage part. I've been killed by campaign mobs three times outside of campaign (three R1s eaten >< ), and only one death was because of AoE.

Both of the others I was standing at the NPC trying to get flagged (but couldn't target the NPC because for lord knows what reason F8 won't target the flag NPC) and a campaign NM walked over and one-shotted me. Unflagged, one-shotted. Grr.

Campaign mobs won't aggro you if you're not flagged unless you engage/cast on them.

That's my point, yes. That's how it's supposed to be. But twice I got attacked/killed after doing nothing but standing unflagged at the NPC.

[Spekkio]

also notable, tags won't prevent xp loss from normal mobs as best i can tell. back when wings was new, i got tags and started boldly exploring garliage to see what it was like before it got punked. wandered back towards where the incinerator place was, dropped invis, tried to open the door. told me i needed a garliage key (i really should go back and see what the hell is in that room in the past. anyone tried?) so i invised back up and started to walk away...only to find about 5 bombs had somehow learned to phase thru the door and were pummeling the living shit out of my fragile, taru blm body. i figured no biggie, i mean i won't lose xp, right? died, reraised and...i wasn't blue anymore... was rather ticked about that.

[BRP]

Current complaints about Campaign:

*Due to the lack of NPC enmity, it is practically impossible for a BLM(and SCH?) to really get any soloing done and any hope of sleepga is banished. While melees welcome NPCs, I really dread them. I'm stuck to curing them and waiting until the monster is at a sliver of HP before I can do anything. Gravity is nice in this situation, but I'm usually /WHM for reraise.

*Outside monsters aggroing Campaign players.

*Outside monsters getting hit by AoEs directed at Campaign players.

*Three strongholds near Jeuno being very inaccessible. They should either become more accessible or grant more reward to motivate people there.

Last three aren't big issues, the first one bothers me greatly. All in all, it isn't very flawed, but it'd be nice if they corrected these occasional fun killers.

[Kirb]

*Due to the lack of NPC enmity, it is practically impossible for a BLM(and SCH?) to really get any soloing done and any hope of sleepga is banished. While melees welcome NPCs, I really dread them. I'm stuck to curing them and waiting until the monster is at a sliver of HP before I can do anything. Gravity is nice in this situation, but I'm usually /WHM for reraise.

This is something I wish they'd modify as well. I can't count the amount of times I've died just by mindlessly debuffing a mob that NPCs are swarming, and having it come and rape me.

[Wizerd]

Current complaints about Campaign:

*Due to the lack of NPC enmity, it is practically impossible for a BLM(and SCH?) to really get any soloing done and any hope of sleepga is banished. While melees welcome NPCs, I really dread them. I'm stuck to curing them and waiting until the monster is at a sliver of HP before I can do anything. Gravity is nice in this situation, but I'm usually /WHM for reraise.

Melees do not like NPCs... NPCs annoy the shit out of at least me. They kill too fast, and make less points for everyone. They're ok for if you get overrun with too many mobs, they can hold them for a little, but I wish they'd stop following a mob if I pull it away from the outpost.

[Vyvian]

Or the NPCs just stand behind the quadavs and do 0 damage after they do that diamond shell move. You'd think they would move sides or something.

[Spoony Bob]

You'd think the person with hate would spin them around for more NPCs to smack them in the face.

[Septimus]

Current complaints about Campaign:

*Due to the lack of NPC enmity, it is practically impossible for a BLM(and SCH?) to really get any soloing done and any hope of sleepga is banished. While melees welcome NPCs, I really dread them. I'm stuck to curing them and waiting until the monster is at a sliver of HP before I can do anything. Gravity is nice in this situation, but I'm usually /WHM for reraise.

Melees do not like NPCs... NPCs annoy the shit out of at least me. They kill too fast, and make less points for everyone. They're ok for if you get overrun with too many mobs, they can hold them for a little, but I wish they'd stop following a mob if I pull it away from the outpost.

That's a great thing to say, when there are people there. I spent a lot of my free time this weekend in the Crawler's Nest [S] to keep it under Bastok control- I could kill about two or three Quadovs before they would retreat with no NPCs there, and a stunning amount of the time it was just me and my two-box.

And heaven forbid if Shadoweye or Shadowfang showed up. ;_;