Hecatomb

[Garret]

I know darknights who use the hecatomb armor full time, and actually like it. They tell me the slow isn't so bad because it helps them avoid pulling hate as much.

I'm just curious how many Drk's you all know like that, beucase maybe I'm just not up with the times but that statement made me rofl.

[Orph]

Him saying Madawc is an intelligent person was one of the funniest things i have ever read.

Oh, and anyone who uses heca fulltime is an idiot with the exception of a thf on certain hnms maybe?

[divisortheory]

Do you have a link to that post?

[Orph]

http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.p...&q=148037&d=60

[Garret]

If you want a barrel full of rofles Kalia just go to the KI Pld forums, and pick just about any post on the 1st page, they are filled with gems like this.

That specific post is

http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.p...&q=148037&d=60

It's somewhere there on page 3.

[divisortheory]

Yea I've seen that guy post before, I know he's a douche. I just responded to that post too lol.

[Garret]

I just figured everyone could use some rofles.

[sephir]

I just figured everyone could use some rofles.

Wow.....I didnt think anyone could get any slower than Madawc but this guy is getting pretty damn close. The only thing keeping Madawc at the bottom of the barrel is him trying to buy that Ridill, if this guy posts about buying a Koenig Cuirass or another rare piece of PLD equipment then he would take 1st prize for idiot of KI.

[Garret]

Unless I totally misread another of his posts he doesn't have Provoke & Warcry, which I assume means he is a Pld without /War. /Nin is obviously good, but from his other posts I think he may actually tank as /Rdm for non-solo play.

[Isiolia]

Waitwaitwait...I recognize that name...that's the same moron that posted about gearing for DEX on his RDM.

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=148319

Maybe he's just trying to troll >_>

[SassiAsura]

I seen some thfs consider going full time with body. I normally tell them not to. Having the full set on with a 450+ delay weapon must be killer.

That'd be like one attack round per minute?

[Jeryhn]

Wow.....I didnt think anyone could get any slower than Madawc but this guy is getting pretty damn close.

Orange juice just shot out of my nose. Ow. You win my internet and my love.

Check the link I posted in that thread by the way, if you'd like some more entertaining reading.

[Daahan]

We don't have such a large trend of DRKs that melee in multiple hecatomb pieces on Bahamut...


but we do have a couple of notorious DRGs...

[Quicklet]

I seen some thfs consider going full time with body. I normally tell them not to. Having the full set on with a 450+ delay weapon must be killer.

That'd be like one attack round per minute?

The only hecatomb piece that a THF should even consider wearing full time is the legs, and then it's really a matter of whether or not the added DEX and Attack outweigh the slow which can depend on the mobs being fought and the rest of the player's gear.

[Naramaska]

The only hecatomb piece that a THF should even consider wearing full time is the legs, and then it's really a matter of whether or not the added DEX and Attack outweigh the slow which can depend on the mobs being fought and the rest of the player's gear.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/images/...k_Trousers.jpg

?

[Khamsin]

Can any of the jobs that can wear Hecatomb reach the gear haste cap, and if so, is the Slow % simply subtracted from your Haste % such that, say, if you were 8% above gear haste cap (potentially), a Slow+8% would have no effect?

[Dibond]

A Brd/Drg is pretty much as much haste as you can get.

Turban 5
Angel Lyre 2
Wyvern Ear 5
Manteel (HQ) 3
Dusk Hands (HQ)4
Speed Belt 6
Byakko 5
Dusk Feet (HQ) 3

33% which is 8% over. You'd have to lose one of the pieces though to get the heca on. Feet you could get on and stay at cap, hands you'd be 1 point below, everything else would be pretty far down.

Thf/Drg

Turban 5
Wyvern Ear 5
Rap. Harness 4
Dusk Gloves (HQ) 4
Speed Belt 6
Homam Legs 3
Homam Feet 3

30%, which is 5% over. You can't possibly stay above cap on this, but feet would be 3% below cap, and hands would be 4 below cap.

Legs themselves give 12% slow. On ninja, its an easy decision to give up 15 attack for 3% haste when you hit 72, I don't see anyone adding 12% slow for 20 attack and seeing anything good come from it, especially when there is fairly cheap 2% haste legs or extremely cheap acc legs available on thf.

[LinktheDeme]

I'm not a thief at all. Was just wondering if its better for thiefs to tp in ranperre harness then WS in hectacomb, or is DH better for TP? Just wondering if haste builds would outweigh it like for other jobs.

[Tordall]

Generally haste beats everything in meritpo situations (esp if you stack on lots and lots of haste). The Haste buffs you get from bards & rdms or whms boost the damage increase you get from +haste gear.

For solo it works out very roughly that:

2 atk = 1 acc
5 atk = 1% haste.

So, going to a common argument: for solo dusk gloves & O kote are a toss-up, for meritpo situations, dusk gloves are clearly better.

Of course the more haste you have the better it gets.

The real trick is to manage to get to 20+% haste while still eating meat and exceeding 80% accuracy.

[aurik]

for meritpo situations, dusk gloves are clearly better.

Not what I've heard from many nins whose word I trust.