should DRK merrit 4 club for krakening?

[deivi]

need advice prz

[Reznap]

the drks i know dont merit club, just use sushi if a mob has high evasion, or get a theif to use feint before you 2h.

[Mifaco]

club is quite possibly the worst place to spend combat merits on. I don't know why you'd want to gimp your character like that.

[Allundaria]

club is quite possibly the worst place to spend combat merits on. I don't know why you'd want to gimp your character like that.

Yeah most kclubbing DRKs I know skirt the issue by having a THF feint, BRDs Madrigal (SV madri on occassion), and loading up on heavy +acc +hp gear like Homam body and SH+1 in addition to eating sushi on top of that. Compromising your combat ability in every other situation in the game just so you can kclub a little better seems a bit extreme.

[Kirschy]

I have 4 merits in club. I think they're useless :/

[Vail]

I've known only two types of characters to merit club: hard-core melee whms and main rngs (with Kraken) who usually have no other melee job up (they go like 8 archery or marksmenship + 4 club)

if your not one of those, probably best not to merit club

[Secksi]

need advice prz

Did you get a club? Grats if so.

and.....are there any RD thf with feint now that I left? lol

Btw-Ebody isn't a big IMF, I always said I would pass it to the people without haub+1 :wink:

[deivi]

Btw-Ebody isn't a big IMF, I always said I would pass it to the people without haub+1 :wink:

spoiler: I wasnt the one that brought up your name back then, but nice to see there's still loudmouth niggers that twist my words to talk shit to ppl in other shells. and you should know, whenever somone leaves the shell we get TH+999 on HNM for about a week

[Sendra]

Btw-Ebody isn't a big IMF, I always said I would pass it to the people without haub+1 :wink:

spoiler: I wasnt the one that brought up your name back then, but nice to see there's still loudmouth niggers that twist my words to talk shit to ppl in other shells. and you should know, whenever somone leaves the shell we get TH+999 on HNM for about a week

Potential?

...

Nah.

[Guyverarmor]

Btw-Ebody isn't a big IMF, I always said I would pass it to the people without haub+1 :wink:

spoiler: I wasnt the one that brought up your name back then, but nice to see there's still loudmouth niggers that twist my words to talk shit to ppl in other shells. and you should know, whenever somone leaves the shell we get TH+999 on HNM for about a week

Potential?

...

Nah.

Wait for It... Wait for It....

[RKenshin]

Attack is useless for KClub, you'll be hitting for 0 90% of the time anyway. Accuracy is the only upside, but ~14acc alone is a complete waste... It's better spent on a different combat merit. That, and really unless your only job is DRK you won't be using a kraken club all that often for game stuff to begin with.

Not to mention, as people said earlier if you're krakening something you'll most likely (or at least should) have Feint if not BRD songs along with it. Making both the accuracy and the attack from those merits just about useless.

[deivi]

thx for the responses, even tho most everyone says its a waste Ive head of some ppl doing it and was curious since DRK and WHM are my only 75s.

[VZX]

Attack is useless for KClub, you'll be hitting for 0 90% of the time anyway.

Which mob are you talking about?

And Ruke, having multiple physical DD at 75, what can you tell us about fully merited combat skill vs 0 meritted combat skill? I didn't do much of HNM things in past 2~2.5 years, but so far.. I can tell once the mob level is greater than 85, you either need help bard accuracy songs or eat sushi in order to hit the mob fairly well (good hit-rate)

[RKenshin]

Which mob are you talking about?

Specifically JoL, AV, and Dynamis Lord you'll hit for 0 nearly 100% of the time aside from critical hits. If you look at the log of a kraken DRK on these mobs you'll normally see allll 0s without Souleater, or the exact same damage per hit over and over with Souleater. It goes without saying the exact same damage almost every single hit isn't normal, so yeah that's from hitting for 0.

Most other HNMs it's usually the same case anyway. I even hit for 0 occasionally on most HNMs with a 90 base damage weapon, nevermind a 12 base damage weapon that has like no attack to back it up.

And Ruke, having multiple physical DD at 75, what can you tell us about fully merited combat skill vs 0 meritted combat skill? I didn't do much of HNM things in past 2~2.5 years, but so far.. I can tell once the mob level is greater than 85, you either need help bard accuracy songs or eat sushi in order to hit the mob fairly well (good hit-rate)

They're great for adding a little more to your potential, but far from necessary and you're still able to perform well without them. The differences are only really there either using meat or fighting HNMs IMO. Using sushi or fighting weaker mobs the differences in accuracy % and average damage per hit are almost the same between people with the same gear. Both in comparing my merited GK vs a non-meritted GK and a meritted combat skill WAR vs my non-meritted combat skill WAR, or even for comparing the same on MNK. The overall difference is small even still using meat/on tougher mobs, but it's definitely there.

All in all a nice thing to have, but you're not horribly gimped or anything by not having it.