Penta: Homam Body or Heca Body?

[Michaera]

Ideas, plz, for the ideal meripo bodypiece for Penta Thrust, as probably DRG/WAR or DRG/SAM. I was sitting here wondering if the chance at a triple attack proc was worth losing all the STR on Hecatomb.. If the Triple Attack on Homam can proc on any of the hits of the WS (of which I'm not entirely sure about, discuss that too!), that gives you something like a 12.5% chance of at least one proc on any given Penta (assuming 2.5% proc rate). Do y'all think that would outweigh the STR on Heca?

For the time being, I'm ignoring the acc difference as I can compensate for the five elsewhere if necessary, and I'm looking at probably Mire/Thickets mobs. No HNMs, no trolls, just squishy meripo mobs. Can assume the rest of the gear is up to par, and using a Triton's Lance, as there might be different responses for Love Halberd.

[Ryko]

Hauber--oh...

Hecatomb.

[Blackice]

Triple attack on Homam body is only +2.5%, you'd see much better results overall using heca than you would waiting/wishing/hoping for triple to proc on 1 WS.

[Michaera]

Hauber--oh...

Hecatomb.

I wish.

Triple attack on Homam body is only +2.5%, you'd see much better results overall using heca than you would waiting/wishing/hoping for triple to proc on 1 WS.

Right, but like I asked, is it possible for it to proc on any of the hits on the WS? 5 hits x 2.5% = 12.5% in actuality? Or is it only on the first hit?

[Vail]

Hauber--oh...

Hecatomb.

I wish.

Triple attack on Homam body is only +2.5%, you'd see much better results overall using heca than you would waiting/wishing/hoping for triple to proc on 1 WS.

Right, but like I asked, is it possible for it to proc on any of the hits on the WS? 5 hits x 2.5% = 12.5% in actuality? Or is it only on the first hit?

you ever have double attack (10% trait) fire off 50% of the time on penta thrust? nope so the triple attack won't proc that way.

[fantasticdan]

Hauber--oh...

Hecatomb.

I wish.

Triple attack on Homam body is only +2.5%, you'd see much better results overall using heca than you would waiting/wishing/hoping for triple to proc on 1 WS.

Right, but like I asked, is it possible for it to proc on any of the hits on the WS? 5 hits x 2.5% = 12.5% in actuality? Or is it only on the first hit?

you ever have double attack (10% trait) fire off 50% of the time on penta thrust? nope so the triple attack won't proc that way.

In some other thead I can't remember the name of, people concluded you could proc two double attacks on a two-handed ws. I wonder if the same applies for triple attack? If it does, you would have a 5% chance of triple attack, and a .06% chance of two triples, assuming the only triple attack you have is from homam body.

[RKenshin]

This was posted not too long ago, but I don't feel like looking up the thread... Again, repeating what that thread said, every individual swing apparently has an equal chance to DA/TA for some (if not all) WS.

Obviously you're not going to DA 50% of the time, because that would require 100% accuracy and always enough HP to land all hits. A few people have activtely tested it on too weak mobs however, and with a 95% hit-rate, DRK/WAR, 15% DA chance, the DA rate on guillotine came out to around 40% over a few different tests. Exactly what it should be.

But again, since you're never capped on accuracy if anything your TA rate with homam body would be more around 5-8% on Penta. Not to mention the limit of only 1.5 activating per WS max (8 hit limit).

[Michaera]

This was posted not too long ago, but I don't feel like looking up the thread... Again, repeating what that thread said, every individual swing apparently has an equal chance to DA/TA for some (if not all) WS.

Obviously you're not going to DA 50% of the time, because that would require 100% accuracy and always enough HP to land all hits. A few people have activtely tested it on too weak mobs however, and with a 95% hit-rate, DRK/WAR, 15% DA chance, the DA rate on guillotine came out to around 40% over a few different tests. Exactly what it should be.

But again, since you're never capped on accuracy if anything your TA rate with homam body would be more around 5-8% on Penta. Not to mention the limit of only 1.5 activating per WS max (8 hit limit).

Taking then into account a more realistic TA rate of say 7% (optimistic since they're really, really easy exp mobs I'm considering) then.. Would the occasional extra hits outweigh the extra 12 STR you get from Heca? If it's an extra 200-300 damage on 7 WSes out of 100, it would need to be.. wtf, an extra 14 damage on each WS from the STR? Is my math right? Screw the TA. xD

Shame the 8 hit limit thing. Was never really sure if that was true or not.

[Wolfknight]

it can proc for sure here is proof(dont have tp return was drg/whm avg for 650 on non-DA, DA over 900~1000):
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...99wheeling.jpg
Personally I use harness for merit or otherwise for ws.

[Einherjar]

If you're talking Penta the modifiers aren't worth a whole lot of investment, they don't help a whole lot, anything else sure, but you want ACC and ATT mainly for penta.

Personally once it drops harness is for other WSes, penta will have corazza in it for the tiny bit more ACC and because I don't really see hecatomb as being that great for penta, I use AJ over heca for penta now.

[Tulun]

I'd imagine -5 acc for 12 strength would be a worthy trade off, but it depends on your hit rate overall.

[Tiernin]

Hauber--oh...

Hecatomb.

I loled

to OP: hecta

[Blackice]

Why do people still refer to it as "Hecta" ? It's spelled correctly on the damn item >.>

[Starr]

Hecatomb.

[Jeryhn]

Why do people still refer to it as "Hecta" ? It's spelled correctly on the damn item >.>

You'll find these people chose Windhurst as their starting nation.

[Michaera]

Ty for the opinions, those that actually read my post through. Will likely stick with the Hecatomb.