Strange aggroing in Apollyon NE?

[leviathanertai]

So, I'm not normally a puller in Limbus, so this could've been caused by a gross error on my part, but I was pulling the Mandy floor in Apollyon NE on Saturday and waiting for two of the Mandies to seperate from about 15' away and suddenly they just started jetting towards the entrance, grabbing 3 other mandies on their way, and went straight towards the Diabolos that was currently summoned. Not one of them went towards me. Is this actually normal? Happened a second time on the same floor but with only one Mandy the next time Diabolos came out. Didn't really cause any problems, just seemed weird and made me question my pulling skills >.>

[Allundaria]

Probably just a fluke, I've noticed some weird pathing on that floor. I usually pull as BRD for my group, and sometimes I get massive fuster clucks of mandies when they decide to like run in a wavy pattern through the ruins.

[Gengu]

A fellow smn said something happened to her while doing PM 6-4 recently. Said she released Titan and everything attempted to own her. I imagine SE will be fixing it with the upcoming maintenance

[Allundaria]

A fellow smn said something happened to her while doing PM 6-4 recently. Said she released Titan and everything attempted to own her. I imagine SE will be fixing it with the upcoming maintenance

That's been kind of a known issue for a while, SMNs can't summon and release in zero-hate situations like kiting Mammets in 6-4 and the Moblins for 5-3. It counts the action as a hate move and will bring the beatdown to your face.

[Gengu]

Odd, I'd never had it happen before, I thought maybe it was related. I've always been able to fully buff, aggro all the mammets, and sit in the corner before without a problem.

Either way it doesn't seem like it should occur o.O

[Spekkio]

i might be able to put forth a partial explanation, but it only makes so much sense. limbus is a shared hate environment. if someone touches or aggros a mob, the mob will keep hunting for targets until everyone is dead. other examples of this are DA darters, aern, etc. if the smn cast noctoshield or dream shroud or something after the pull, it's possible the avatar accrued enough hate in that action acting on up to 6 people, all with this shared, obscenely low hate, to pull hate on all the pulled mobs. this would be much like someone pulling with a ranged attack, missing (thus getting almost no hate,) and then running past a resting party member causing them to get hate due to rest hate. this explanation only makes sense though, if this was done after you pulled. if it's before it, i got no clue. i don't trot my smn out to bcs or anything like that really, so take what i've said above with a grain of salt. i'm speaking from what my logic dictates, not direct experience.

[akarikamigishi]

Taking a guess but perhaps this is related to besieged. If anyone has noticed, all mobs aggro pets first and primarily - I've gone as drg, and had 10 bombs go straight for my newly summoned wyvern before. I'm sure the same goes for bst/smn/pup, as I always see pets dying before anyone else.

[Indalecia]

I learned the hard way on any mob that can summon a wyvern, wait til it pops before dropping a BP on main mob. If the BP causes wyvern to pop, your dead as soon as you desummon.

[Rentwokay]

Taking a guess but perhaps this is related to besieged. If anyone has noticed, all mobs aggro pets first and primarily - I've gone as drg, and had 10 bombs go straight for my newly summoned wyvern before. I'm sure the same goes for bst/smn/pup, as I always see pets dying before anyone else.

I think this is true all over Aht Urghan, seeing as we see similar patterns in Assaults like Escort Professor Clavauert, Demolition Duty, or any other place where the master can stealth up and the pet can catch aggro.

[safer]

if anyone has done smn on JoL they may have experienced this.. it was really hard to explain to my ls till some other people started comming smn and same thing happened to them

desummoning has some weird hate associated with it on mobs and their pets..

what happened to me was that i'd summon an avatar.. run in > assault > BP > desummon
if this occured shortly before JoL was about to summon (or during his summon animation), all 3 of his pets would charge straight at me once the avatar was released. it didnt matter if i released when the pets were already summoned, or before they were summoned, and it didnt matter how much damage my BPs did

its not like tanks or anyone else lost hate, we'd always have 2 tanks on either side of JoL, and like pretty much anyone else would be much higher on the hate list than a smn that only BP's, yet the pets would charge at me every single time =/

[Indalecia]

I HATE JoL for that reason alone. He's got fucking shark assassins....SHARK ASSASSING PEOPLE!

[akarikamigishi]

Has happened to me, but I can just be standing still on smn and they'll come charging without me doing anything at all at the moment, on smn. I think hate on NMs like those is a lot more random than it seems to be. Sure it's focused on the tank, but the pets have to be attacking someone the NM hates too, and that's very rarely the tank...