Mnk66 question about HF&DK ;()

[maxsan]

Heya everyone =o

I just hit 66 and I'm fighting Magmatica Eruca in Mt Zhalyom since 64 I think...

Well, I've +36acc for TP and something like +19STR & +14VIT for HF and DK but... I tried DK for all my level 65 and saw that the damages are lowest than HF. Is it because of my WS macro or of the crawlers or of my level ?

Anyway, we tried "Light" with my Drg friend and we were doing 63 dmg all the time with some peaks at 150-400-500 and a 800 but most I've seen was 60-70.

The crawlers were IT- and VT- with Sushis on.

Fact is that I always heard that DK is better than HF I'm a little sad tbh :D

Should I say goodbye to the SC Light, having more VIT and keeping HF ???


Thank you

[Churchill]

Stop using VIT for WS.

Get accuracy gear, eat meat, stack acc/atk for WS, if you use DK and that's your setup, I'd sub /THF, but /THF is dumb for MNK so just use HF or RF (Which I prefer) and tell whoever said light was a good idea to go back to 2004.

[maxsan]

Heh =D

Thank you for your answer,

anyway... you know that HF is 20% STR - 50% VIT based and atm I'm doing 500-800 HF in 64-65 so I think it works good (RF doing 350-500 with 5/5 hits).

I'll test HF with full Atk (so, no STR and no VIT+) tomorrow.

But I wish I can use Atk food ;_; I'm +36acc and I can't have more (maybe with SH+1 and 2 Sniper's +1 or Toreador's...) , I can wear Life Belt though but I think that I'm not so weak.

That's my setup :

Weapon : CC's (I know TM+2 are better but I keep CC for missions)
Ammo : Tiphia's
Head : Super Ribbon (:D 1STR + 1DEX + 1VIT + 1 ATK + 1ACC)
Body : SH
Hands : O'kote
Neck : PCC
Ear1&2 : Spike (farming for 2 Merman's)
Ring1&2 : Woodsman
Back : Amemet+1
Belt : Brown Belt
Legs : Strike Subligar
Feet : Wulong Shoes

Any advices are always good ^^

PS : atk food {Can I have it ?}

[Judai]

Can't really use Attack Food when overcamping unless you have a BRD or COR and Acc Songs/Rolls. No clue about HF/DK as they revamped them and I still don't use themand when I leveled Monk forver ago it was RF until AF cause DK and HF sucked. I really wouldn't add in any Vit for them though, usually secondary modifiers don't do much for you. MNK is all about DoT though, not big WSs. Worry about your Acc, Haste and Attack mainly and keeping that DoT up. Even once you get AF you aren't going to put up monster WS numbers like WARs, SAMs, DRKs, etc. It sucks you don't get to be omgbbq1800ws! but in the end DoT is what makes MNK so strong. Your gear looks fine to me, not sure if there are any better head pieces, I remember them sucking when I leveled, just keep on punching and don't worry about the WSs so much, it's not your main damage like other jobs.

[Secksi]

Voyagers sallet if you can get it/want to invest time to it.

I wouldn't worry with mermans earrings either, save your gil for food.

[Delekii]

if it's is really 20% str 50% vit, the two are pretty similar for base damage..

after applying lvl correction each point of vit is about .415wsc, while str is .25fstr and .166wsc

of course it doesn't work exactly like that, you need whole numbers to get the benefit, but in terms of trying to compare piece for piece without knowing any other stats, they are almost identical for base damage. Of course, 2str = 1atk as well, but certainly you wouldn't really give up, say, 2vit for 1str..

[Kylex]

Personally, I prefer HF over DK because I find it gives a more consistant damage. I don't remember me noticing much difference in HF and RF, but that may have changed since the update that affected HF.

If you're using sushi and HF, I'd stack up on as much STR as possible and VIT for the pieces where you don't have STR gear for that slot (like body piece). Since it's a one-hit WS you shouldn't need much ACC, sushi alone should cover this. If you still find you're missing often, then sub ACC gear back in, but you shouldn't have a problem.

[maxsan]

Thank you ^^

About VIT and STR gear, it's only during WS's :D So don't worry about the Acc I have while DoTing.

Anyway, I'm doing the same dmg as other jobs with my HF's, only DRG do more.

I'll try to get a 2 VIT for 1 STR Ty all.

About my head, yeah I know that Voyager Sallet rocks but I don't have the access to the NM

Take care everyone

[Shuemue]

Just don't worry about WS on MNK until Asuran Fists, go for dot and do whichever WS looks prettiest.

[Rama]

...Since it's a one-hit WS you shouldn't need much ACC, sushi alone should cover this. If you still find you're missing often, then sub ACC gear back in, but you shouldn't have a problem.

HF and DK are both 2 hit weaponskills.


with the relatively recent change, HF will probably be stronger, except close to 300 TP.

use HF or RF.

[maxsan]

Thank you Rama, it's what I was thinking (2 hits WS).

Anyway, Shuemue is right :D

Thank you all