How about getting rid of "EX" in EX gear once and for all?

[Kittyn]

When RMT was a problem a lot of NM drops became EX to give everyone a chance and non-EX versions were moved to BCNMs. Now that the RMT phenomenom has died down a lot, would getting rid of "EX" in EX gear be helpful or a burden to everyone else?

SE implemented that for COP quest items & the item value dropped quickly. Of course doing the same for all EX items would have tremendously different implications. To me, it would simply be awesome since I don't have time to play at normal hours so it's almost impossible to get a big group together when I can play. My favorite thing to do is bazaaring while I sleep!

Useless AF2s on Mannequins would be able to be sold & so would a lot of other equip that takes up room. It would solve storage problems because when you need the item again you can just buy it back. People who don't have Sky LS would be able to raise the gil to get their Kitty pants finally. Fully finished relic weapons could be instantly sold for a nice chunk of gil. Really I think it would help for some of the more rarer equips like Ridill or Defending Ring or Salvage equip. This would give people other options rather than constantly doing the same thing "over and over again." Haha I know that last statement is almost what FF stands for.

If the STFU does a good job then the economy shouldn't take a drastic hit from RMT. However with all the truly uber gear on the market, all existing AH items will take a huge hit in value and hardly anyone will craft anymore & spend time going after all the uber gear which is fine by me.

[Cream Soda]

dumb idea imo

[Zarath]

Uhhh what?

A) No one fucking crafts anymore if they want to make any fucking gil

B) Bad idea

C) What a fucking bad idea.

A bit crude for me, but puts my point across pretty simply.

[BerenTebogo]

This is a terrible idea, and if I could somehow find an internet genie to grant me 3 wishes, I would use all 3 of them to kill you.

[Knightblade]

horrible idea

if this was to happen you'd have johnny walmart hanging around whitegate with a ridill or defending ring all over the place

[Not Kuno]

Jesus this is the newbie section. Even though that idea will cause alot of problems like the ones mentioned, you guys don't have to be assholes about it.

[Zarath]

Jesus this is the newbie section. Even though that idea will cause alot of problems like the ones mentioned, you guys don't have to be assholes about it.

Only cause I didn't feel like typing the many reasons why this is a really bad idea <<; was such a face palm to me that I felt it deserved a response like mine. As I said, a bit crude for me, especially for this section, but I didn't feel like explaining it.

[Krye]

A lot of ex shit isn't due to RMT, it's due to go fucking get it yourself.

[Bakthi]

Ex has solved some problems, sort of. It can also cause a lot of drama and stress. I'm not actually a fan of it, for the most part, but I don't think you could just remove it now. Part of me would like to watch the chaos that would ensue, though. I've often thought that'd I'd love to see SE spring an "All Ex items can be traded for 24 hours" event on us. I'd like to be able to get the 99 B.seals off that level 30 mule, or give my AF+1 that I don't use since I got Marduk to someone.

The main thing, I think, is that making items Ex means that all your nicest stuff dies with you, thereby ensuring that all your friends remain tied to the game for a longer period of time, and continue to give SE money. Oh...there are status items like Ridill, D.ring, maybe Salvage gear that probably shouldn't be able to be traded. But on the whole, the fact that so much is Ex in this game annoys me. Having to camp NMs for weird pieces of gear I use for a few levels, having people DC and lose Homam because they didn't get back before the part dropped, lag-lotting a 35 for a piece I'd already completed and having the GM refuse to give it to the correct person...all of these things suck pretty hard.

I understand that SE wants you to have been there in order to get certain items, and I don't disagree, but it sure would be nice to have some way of dealing with the shitty side effects. Sometimes it's a matter of seconds or one wrong keypress and BANG, glued to the wrong person (or the ground) forever.

[Tomiko]

Let's get rid of EX gear and give even more shit to be sold at an easier rate.

This is the correct answer.

[Kittyn]

A lot of ex shit isn't due to RMT, it's due to go fucking get it yourself.

Actually EX is precisely the reason you can't get it yourself.

Let's get rid of EX gear and give even more shit to be sold at an easier rate. :ashira:

Keep it civil. I don't like the idea either.

and whoever said they don't craft for gil obviously doesn't know how to fucking craft. Which is ok. gives me more gil.

Is it an easier rate? Seems like the majority of people are against the idea so doubt you guys would sell the "EX" item if given the opportunity. However a few people would in which case the value for such item will be higher than actually farming it with a group.

[Ryko]

A lot of ex shit isn't due to RMT, it's due to go fucking get it yourself.

Actually EX is precisely the reason you can't get it yourself.

Man if I get banned for this then I get banned for this whatever.

Get the fuck out. The idea is silly and would turn this game into absolute hell (moreso). Any halfwit LS would have their tools buy up currency in droves and in essence drive the price of relics through the roof to attempt to sell their stage 5 at a profit. Most people who were quitting for good, if they would give their items to a friend, would probably instead sell it and fuel RMT like a mother fucker. Every OCD dickhead would be packing aery even moreso than it is currently just to AH the ridills and abjurations. If you want to sit around and make gil, then by all means do so, but end-game steering clear of the auction house is a good thing.

People's intentions are to screw over and abuse/exploit any system whatsoever, giving them carte blanche to do so is as bad an idea as they come.

[Eldelphia]

One of the reasons RMT is down is because things are ***EX*** If you could trade things away RMT would go through the roof.... Making sure you get off your backside and do it yourself means it's actually worth something to you.

[Bkbahamut]

Its already bad enough with the botting monolopy Linkshells that have everything they want from Fafnir....Nidhogg, the kings etc.. you make shit sellable they will continue to bot the fuck out of it and youll still never get it, unless you wanna pay 50mil for a ridill. keep it EX people stop camping it eventually....(hopefully) and it gives others a chance. god making Dring and Ridill would be a nightmare lol

[BerenTebogo]

Let's just dual wield ridills while we're at it, and equip 2 drings, and hell, why not 2 d earring while we're at it.

It's on the same level of stupidity, there's no use for it, this is a terrible terrible idea and doesn't belong on BG, not even in newbie, this is up there with nerf utsusemi shit.

[Shuemue]

WoW got shit right with Bind on Equip and Bind on Pickup. Not perfect, but works.

[Jeryhn]

This is a terrible idea, and if I could somehow find an internet genie to grant me 3 wishes, I would use all 3 of them to kill you.

Wooooooow lol.

I'd do the same thing.

[Lexa]

My 25+ kills of Valkurm Emperor without seeing a single hairpin says I'm happy I didn't have competition from a bunch of people wanting to sell 6-7 hairpins a week, but rather only the 1-7 other people camping so they could sell their one sellable pin, or who just needed it, like me.

PS. One day, VE... one day...

PPS. Bad idea.

[Amastacia]

A lot of ex shit isn't due to RMT, it's due to go fucking get it yourself.

Actually EX is precisely the reason you can't get it yourself.

And if you can't get it yourself, you don't deserve to have it.

EX gear is a reward for partaking in game content, and it's absolutely sensible that there should be some things no amount of gil can buy. A person sitting in town crafting for 3 years should not be able to go to the AH and buy a DRing, a Duelist's Chapeau, or an Amanomurakumo no matter how rich they are. They should leave Jeuno and go kill King Behemoth, or clear Dynamis zones to get to Dyna-Xarc, or go through the hassle of the relic upgrade, or otherwise go actually play the game if they want the payoff.

Seriously, what's the point in playing at all if everything is a commodity?

[Lexa]

Plus, if everything came with a handy price tag, I can guarantee you more people would buy gil. Sure, you can achieve a relic by buying gil even nowadays, but you still have to find the currency/sponsor/level a craft with that bought gil. If you could just outright buy the relic outright, imagine the gil sales? Increased demand = RMT increasing their efforts = going after all the sellable stuff that is now sellable again = hi2u 2005.