[Valefor] Sassie (fka Ceelynn of Phoenix)

[Aurania]

Created a mule on Valefor with her former real name in order to rename her character to Sassie. I don't want to divulge too much detail publicly, to protect the victim here, but what this bitch did is beyond diabolical.

She did steal some of the victim's endgame SAM gear, but honestly, we don't give a shit about that as much as the rest. She literally wrecked someone's real life. This is beyond any scheme that we hear about where said PC pretends to be someone they are not to get in game gear. This extended far into real life and I am not exaggerated by stating that she brought someone to the verge of destruction. At the midnight hour, the bitch disconnected all avenues the victim had to reach her, as they sat there waiting for the event planned for many many months, and transferred servers with no warning to anyone.

In any event, again, I wish to not divulge too much here. If you are an LS leader and want to know more, or she has applied to your shell, please send me a PM. All I can say is do not trust this bitch.

[Aurania]

The names she has been known to use are:

Sassie
Lissie
Dreamlove (really? far from it, bitch)
Dreamkitteh (is that code for "i'm a whore?" seriously, so cliched)
Kiraleigh
Ceelynn
Laela

I get word that people are being dicks to her over there. Nice. Said victim is thrilled. Bitch is sending him PMs now, which is more than she did before, but she's acting like SHE's the victim. Ugh.

[Howard Roark]

protecting the victim, I know, but don't we need a liiiitle proof? otherwise this is just a really well worded smear campaign with great rhetoric (hey I'm convinced just yeah...)

[MysteryMithra]

PIX OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE *FOAMS AT THE MOUTH*

[Aurania]

Heh - it's a really personal thing that happened to the guy, so there's no pics I can honestly post. I'm not so paranoid that I SS everything that happens every aspect of the day in linkshell, so unfortunatly, I have no logs to show about the events that transpired.

Let me just put it this way (and I confirmed with him that it's ok to give more detail) - she essentially left him at the altar for all intents and purposes (they weren't engaged). They've basically had an ongoing relationship for a couple of years. They made plans to make it official and move in together (it's my understanding, though I could be wrong, that they had met through friends a few years ago). They spoke all the time, spent all their game time together, and planned to have an in-game wedding. One of our linkshell mates even got a date through the GM service and they had it all planned, to the point where the three of them were "practicing" in preparation for the real in-game wedding.

Here's where it gets royally fucked up. The decision was made to move in together, kids and all. Yes, there are fucking children involved. She was going to drive to pick him up several states away. He made arrangements for family to move into his home (thank GOD he didn't put it on the market). He gave two weeks notice at his job and tried to explain to his child why they were moving so far away. This is not a guy with an easily replaceable job, either. He has a legitimate career. They talk ALL MONTH in linkshell and out of it about how excited they are that moving day is coming. She shows up to all linkshell events the past week, and is the same as always with him - affectionate, active in shell, the works. This guy is literally uprooting his life and his child's because the decision was made that he would move to HER, and not the other way around.

Friday, she was allegedly on her way, or supposed to be, anyway. She calls him and says something came up and she will leave the next day, Saturday. The next day, she's telling him she's on her way, so he is chilling in game for most of the day. His entire house is packed up and ready to go. He expects her the following morning, on Sunday. I get a tell from him on Sunday and the guy is destroyed. She never showed up. She disconnected her phone. We did some detectiving and she's moved all her fucking characters to Valefor. No explanation, no warning, nothing.

In the meantime, he's lost not just the woman he thought he loved, but his fucking job, and almost his house. Thankfully, his arrangements were with family, so I don't expect he is out of a home. He's not even going to tell his 11 year old what happened, outside of "we aren't going."

The worst part? After I made this post, she starting getting tells from people on Valefor. No idea if it was Valefor natives or my crew on mules, but apparently we've made her game experience miserable, much to my delight (fuck her, I don't care). She FINALLY, in response to this thread, starts sending him PMs in game yesterday complaining about how her game experience has been ruined. I can't believe the nerve of this asshole, I really can't. She wrecked his fucking life, there were kids involved, and this was the result of months and months of discussion and mutual decision. And she thinks SHE is the victim? Fuck her.

Oh, and to preempt those who would argue how stupid he is for trusting, a) internet relationships can and do work, even when one party is considering picking up their life and taking a risk; b) it's no different than the personal ads of yore; c) there is absolutely no difference between cultivating your relationship in this fashion than in person - assholes anre assholes either way and no matter how you met the person, they can change their entire personality on a dime. You can't predict it.


edit - sorry I didn't elaborate before, I just wasn't sure how many details the victim would want me to give out. He doesn't have access to the boards, so he can't exactly speak for himself here and I didn't want to get too personal absent his permission.

[Greenjade]

Wow that is a huge bitch move on her part. Way to ruin someones life.

Hopefully things get better for your friend.

[Aurania]

Wow that is a huge bitch move on her part. Way to ruin someones life.

Hopefully things get better for your friend.

Thanks. He's already feeling better. I think it was therapeutic for him to be able to actually speak his mind to her. Plus, it doesn't hurt that he now knows her game experience is suffering. > His kid didn't really want to move, so that works out well for them. I just hope he can reclaim his job and that they haven't replaced him yet. In this job market, oy.

[S N K]

God damn that is a major bitch move indeed. I'd love to see her man-up *heh* and explain herself.

[Chen]

bah, i knew Ceelynn very well, this is a shock.

be interested to see when more details come out. i believe the OP, but still never would have expected this from the person

[Judgenot]

I am Ceelynn, formerly of Quetz, formerly of Phoenix. I am only going to post here once. I feel that an accusation this monumental deserves a response. I have played Final Fantasy XI for 2 years. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who has a bad word to say about me until now. That a prior LS member, leader, who I have always treated respectively, should do this is, devastating to me. There are always 2 sides to a story, yet you jump right in and automatically believe what you have been told by 'said' victim. Coming from a lawyer, it is almost humorous-yet there is nothing funny about this particular situation. So, since you have decided to make it public fodder, I will tell my story. This is just going to come down to he said she said, so make of it what you will.

I met Morier on Quetz a long time ago. I became friends with him and his girlfriend. Did not have alot of contact with him. Said hi now and then. He ran into some trouble and had to move servers. A while later I and some friends moved to phoenix. He found me one day and sent me a friends request. We would hang out every once in awhile. Around June of 2008, things became more involved for both of us. He had left his current gf, and was free to pursue me, as he so eloquently put it. I had not been aware that he was interested in me. He was very clever, witty and nice. I was a bit hesitant to get involved with someone so close to a break up; not wanting to be the 'rebound'. He convinced me it was ok. Then things took a turn for the worse. He went through a "I hate women" stage. Unbeknownst to me at the time, he was also involved in another relationship. He disapeared for a few months.

I went back to playing. He shows up on the scene again. Said he went through a bad time but he had his head on straight now. I told him after what happened before; with his getting involved with me and then leaving after, I hesitated to get involved to begin with, I was not interested in jumping back into a relationship that had hurt me once already. He wore me down, very subtley. So by October of 2008 we were considred and item. It was around this time that I started gettin phone calls from the girl he had been involved with when we were supposedly becoming an item to begin with back in June. She told me lots of things. She had gotten my phone number because the phone that Morier had been calling me on was hers. She had sent it to him so that he could keep in contact with her. She had also sent him her PS2 to play on cause his had died-hence why he had disapeared off the face of Vanadiel, only to return a couple of months later. When I asked Morier about this, he had all kinds of answers for my questions. I chose to believe him, as I had no reason not to. I tend to take people at face value. I do not go through life wondering if everything someone says to me is a lie. He said she was mentally unhinged and that he would take care of it. She had told me that they had planned on moving in together and getting married, among other things. So I didn't hear from her again for a long time.

As our relationship progressed he told me personal things. Basically that he lived with his mother and sister and that he had a son. That his son hated him because his family had turned him against him. Then he said he lost his job, in November, because the mentally unhinged girl had called his job and had gotten him fired. He started pressuring me to 'come get him'. He couldn't live there anymore, that it was too much to deal with. By this time I believed myself to be in love with him. We got along great. Always had fun together. We discussed maybe him moving in with me. He asked me to marry him in game December 2nd, 2008. I was so happy and life was good. I was admitted into his end game LS, Armada. I had alot of fun there. It was a great experience for me.

Then in January, I told him I had vacation coming up in March. We decided he could move here. He said his son would not be coming because as stated before, his son hated him. I asked him if he was sure this was something he wanted to do. I have 2 children and I, as a mother, could not leave them. I would be devastated. He said yes. Then in February he said life was getting rough for him there. That his family was plotting against him. That he would buy food and they would eat it. That he gave them money for bills and they would spend it on other things. Then he told me he had no money to play the game and wanted me to pay it on my Credit Card, that he would pay me back. Well, love or no, I am not going to commit to do that until he was actually here.

Then I received a call from the mentally unhinged woman. She stated that she was not supposed to call me. We had a long conversation. I guess in all honesty I was never really pursuaded way back when he told me they had never had anything going on. He was to quick to brush things off. I caught him in a few lies but chose to believe what he said to alleviate my fears. I guess for me, I wanted it to be real. So I ignored what I never should have. She stated she could offer me proof. I figured I would humor her and on my way to get Morier, I would stop and see her. I never said a word to anyone. If I was wrong, then no one needed to know that I had doubts. If I was right then no one needed to know what a fool I had been. Pride goeth before a fall.... Hallelujah

To make a tremendously long story almost over, I received the proof I needed. I am a person who goes about her life trying to make a difference. I do not like confrontation or to make waves. I mind my business and expect others to do the same, and I am always shocked when they do not do that. This is not a game issue. This is a personal issue involving me and Morier: Not me, Morier, Aurania, Armada LS, Phoenix, Valefor and BG. I made a terrible mistake by putting my trust into someone that I met in a game, entitled Final Fantasy-the name says alot. I believed in a fantasy and have no one to blame but myself. So I moved to a new world mistakenly believing that no one would bother me. Boy was I wrong. People from Phoenix who think Morier is a saint make mules and come to Valefor with the intent purpose of spamming me with mean stuff like "cunt" "whore" "bitch" "rot in hell" etc....For the record I have never, ever stolen anything from anyone. I have never asked for anything. The things I have I worked hard for. I put in my time in the LS and never asked for favors or complained or whined or caused drama. Granted, I guess I could have picked a better way to leave. I just didn't know how, because no explanation would have suficed in my opinion, and telling the truth would have gotten me exactly where I am. I was in his world among his friends. Who was going to believe me?

So I may or may not continue to play-If it makes you feel better than by all means make a mule and come to Valefor and make my life hell. If I am on I will continue to blacklist until a new hot topic comes along and I am old news. Am I guilty of making a mistake? Yes Should I be crucified for it? Well when u figure it out let me know...

[Aurania]

Dude. Whatever bs past you guys had, whatever drama was existing that was personal between you does not justify the fact that you completely left him hanging and LIED repeatedly about it. You fooled ALL of us. If you had doubts you should have talked to him. You could have checked your doubts BEFORE he started to uproot his life. But, no, you didn't even BOTHER to try and talk to him until AFTER you decided your game experience was lacking. You don't think that's a pretty heinous thing to do, no matter WHAT the circumstance?

If there's two sides to every story, as you say, then why didn't you contact him to tell him whatever it is you think you learned? No, instead you disconnected your phone and server transferred. Nevermind what that might be doing to him - waiting, sitting there packed and ready to go. No, you just ran with no word, no explanation. You claimed to be "on your way," yet you were on OUR forums checking them. You claim that I should understand there's two sides to a story, but hell, what choice did any of us have to HEAR your side, when you left no one with any avenue with which to contact you? Yea, it was personal between you two until several of us got tells from a completely dejected guy, having no idea what to do or think, and all any of us could say is WHY would anyone DO that? People tried to contact you and talk to you the "nice" way, but you ignored them and logged off. You just ran and ran and ran.

I don't pretend anyone is an angel, but what you did is beyond fucked up. Period. It's a shame, too, I really liked you and thought you were a great person to be around.

Oh, and if you never stole anything, where's his SAM gear he let you borrow before you jumped?

If you had told the truth to begin with, people probably would have understood. But this? A bit too little, too late. You know me, I have ALWAYS ALWAYS given the benefit of the doubt even to the most seemingly seediest people. I have ALWAYS sought to understand both sides to a story. You never gave any of us that chance.

And before you dog on people who met in a "Fantasy" game, dude, I met Yabai in this game. Going on four years soon. Don't be so condescending as to suggest that because its FFXI, you aren't dealing with real people, lives, and emotions.

[Chen]

if you read her post, cee says she said he could move in, then the mentally unhinged woman called.

p.s. i guess cee theres no point in me asking for my blessed mitts back? :3 lol

[Yabby]

Post contained herein solely express the opinion of the authors and do not reflect the viewpoint and/or the opinion of Armada Linkshell.



Thank you


P.S. Please enjoy the drama tho.

.For the record I have never, ever stolen anything from anyone. I have never asked for anything.

p.s. i guess cee theres no point in me asking for my blessed mitts back? :3 lol

[Aragon of Odin]

This isn't to defend said person but I truly don't see the purpose in this warning as it doesn't relate to the game. This is a RL matter, anyone ever think that said "chick" got scared at such a commitment for RL? Moving in with someone is a huge step for some people and maybe they truly weren't ready for it and didn't know how to deal with it.

In my eyes it doesn't look like some big scheme, as she really got nothing out of it. Usually when you plan something so big the intent it to take someone for everything they have and in your first post you said it was just a little Sam gear that they didn't return. This is a personal issue that they have to work out, spending time in game and talking with someone is totally different then actually living with someone and seeing them on a daily basis. Maybe she realized this and didn't know how to deal with it. Does she owe it to him to talk and explain? Fuck yes, but that's between the 2 of them.



I don't see everyone's ex fiance/husband/wife/gf/bf posting warnings on these forums about them, because it doesn't belong here.

However if it was a scheme i'll just shove my boot in my mouth right now.

Edit: For the record this post was made prior to Ceelynn posting in this thread, and after reading her post it does look like something that needs to be taken care of in RL and NOT in game as it has NOTHING to do with in-game.

[Kriz]

I'm gonna have to say that Ceel's story sounds more on-key. In-game relationships are nothing but drama, hah. Welcome to Valefor!

[Chen]

edit: what aragon said!

to yabbys edited quote, the stuff i gave her was a pretty much a gift, was thinking of asking for it back when she left my shell, i'm not worried about it lol

[Aurania]

I wouldn't have posted it here if she a) hadn't stolen his in game gear and b) it didn't completely implicate her character. If you all think that one's character doesn't carry over into this game, i.e. that someone with no sense of ethics or morality won't have the same sociopathic thinking in game, I'd have to call you naive. The fact is, this took game trust to a whole new level with me, which is why I posted it. And yes, in-game items, of the osode, h kotes, other ilk, were also involved.

[Aragon of Odin]

Then post a warning about them stealing gear, don't post peoples real life personal problems, because to be honest from reading both sides of the story I don't see that she's a shaddy person. Even before reading her side of the story she didn't seem shady to me, and after reading her post she seems like the type of person who'd be willing to make a mule to return the gear, but maybe I'm wrong.

Either way it's something that needs to be worked out between the 2 of them and not you and her or any of us.

[Limlight]

failed dramallama attempt

[Dramafinderftw]

I cried a little inside when I read both of the long ass posts. Then I went downstairs and grabed some and enjoyed the other drama that is on BG.