Item Search
     
BG-Wiki Search
Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Royal Ramble ks30     submit to reddit submit to twitter

  1. #1
    D. Ring
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    4,736
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Quetzalcoatl

    Royal Ramble ks30

    Does anyone have any tips for this fight?
    It's been a while and I want to make sure i didn't forget anything important for this fight.
    The strat that i remember is one guy grabs hate from the cardian on the far left. The others despawn and new cardians appear. Another person kites the Whm queen and the other DD kill the BLm queen asap.
    Then kill the whm queen in the corridor incase of a wipe.
    Then kill the king last of all.
    Does that sound about right?

  2. #2
    Relic Shield
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    1,744
    BG Level
    6
    FFXI Server
    Cerberus

    I've done this fight a lot to get Ingots for peoples Salvage heads (and now we'll do them for Gobbiebags I'm sure)

    We go with 5 people, RDM/NIN, WHM/SCH, WAR/NIN, MNK/NIN, PLD/NIN.

    PLD and RDM have Wlegs, but they're not required, the Caridans stop to cast often.

    PLD Flashes the one you want to fight/spawn and kites it, RDM kites another, and the MNK WAR and WHM kill one. Then the PLD brings his back, kills that one, then the RDM brings hers in and kill that one.

    It's very easy if you're going with competent people, never lost or come close to timing-out.

  3. #3
    Cerberus
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    421
    BG Level
    4
    FFXI Server
    Alexander

    Bring a couple of SAM's and this fight will last 3-5 minutes tops. (Our record was just under 2 minutes.) Key is to Meditate outside and start the fight ready to unload.

    We use a PLD/WAR or RDM/WAR to start the fight - voke the RDM King card (pretty sure all magic, including Flash increases the card's offense/defense which can be pretty potent, skip Flash if you can).

    One of the SAM's (or MNK/WAR) voke the BLM queen, one of the other melee voke the WHM queen. If you have a BRD, a Sekkanoki chain will take off ~80% of the BLM card (100% if you have Amano :0). BLM goes down in 5-10 seconds tops, then start on the WHM. I usually save Blade Bash to try to stop Benediction, but even if it gets off, 2 solid DD should have the WHM down in less than 1 minute.

    Kiter brings the RDM King back up to the circle, unload on it, should be dead in 2 minutes tops. 5 minute BC fight at worst.

    Might want to use Seigan on the King card, it can use a few nasty TP Moves.

    I farm this one usually once a week for the ingots, very easy battle.

  4. #4
    Hydra
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    107
    BG Level
    3
    FFXIV Character
    Byr Urumet
    FFXIV Server
    Ragnarok
    FFXI Server
    Ragnarok

    Avoid casting Magic on the Cardians at all cost (Magic = DEF+).

  5. #5
    Fake Numbers
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    85
    BG Level
    2
    FFXI Server
    Cerberus

    This fight is retardedly easy. PLD/WAR, DD/NINx3 WHM and RDM is best setup imo.
    /nin is NECESSARY for the DDs because of the incredibly damage the WS's and melee attacks can do.

    The strategy is like this, Sam's meditate over 200TP, buff up once inside, PLD flash's the King of Coins(RDM), and kites it around the circle of the BC.

    RDM(suggested to come /war for voke to avoid using magic) gets hate on Queen of cups(WHM) and just stands outside of melee range. It will almost never move into melee range and will just stand at a distance casting spells.

    WHM + DD's kill the Queen of Batons(BLM). Sekkanoki -> Gekko spam is best way to do it. Using SC's is kinda pointless.

    Once Batons is dead, Whm keeps pld up, and rdm + DD's kill Queen of Cups.

    Once Cups is dead, Everyone kills the King of Coins.

    DO NOT CAST ANY SPELL AT ALL ON ANY OF THE MOBS.

    Not even flash, even 1 spell can significantly raise their defense and attack, and 3+ casts can result in an instant loss because it becomes nearly impossible to kill them. Don't enfeeble, don't nuke, don't flash, nothing.

    Imo, MNK, SAM, and WAR are the best Dd's for this.

    I've only lost this BC because someone enfeebled or cast magic on the king of coins, the Queens go down in first 3 minutes. Also, I'm not sure if SC damage is considered magical damage taken on these guys, but I'd avoid using it, as its not even really necessary to get the win.

    Watch out for their TP moves. Deal out resets the hate on whoever used on and does a lot of damage and Bludgeon and instantly kill a DD w/o shadows up.

    Best drops I've seen were O. Ingot x2, D. ingot. So, good luck. The only way to lose this BC is to screw it up yourself.

    NIN/WAR tank works, but its extremely difficult to keep shadows up most of the time and keep hate, so PLD is a lot better tank and kiter.

  6. #6
    Salvage Bans
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    825
    BG Level
    5

    Some previous discussions:

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/47189...rop-rates.html
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/61543...ml#post2150775
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/53313...ml#post2534930

    I haven't seen anything about why you would pick one king over another. It seems that some do RDM (en-Dispel) and some PLD (en-Attack Down). I can see why you wouldn't want the WHM (en-Absorb buffs), but the BLM (en-Drain) sounds plausible, at least if you have a BLU to stun gas without causing rage.

  7. #7
    Hydra
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    107
    BG Level
    3
    FFXIV Character
    Byr Urumet
    FFXIV Server
    Ragnarok
    FFXI Server
    Ragnarok

    Quote Originally Posted by Lekotas View Post
    Using SC's is kinda pointless.
    I disagree.

  8. #8
    Cerberus
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    478
    BG Level
    4

    neener neener neener lol anyway yeah sc is always a bonus

  9. #9
    Fake Numbers
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    85
    BG Level
    2
    FFXI Server
    Cerberus

    Last time I did this, one of the Sam's did Darkness Sc and then for some reason the king became a brick wall, mighta been the rdm casting something on it, idr exactly, just remember it was around time of the SC. Eitherway, SC good then my bad :D

  10. #10
    Cerberus
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    421
    BG Level
    4
    FFXI Server
    Alexander

    Quote Originally Posted by Lekotas View Post
    This fight is retardedly easy. PLD/WAR

    ... PLD flash's the King of Coins(RDM)

    ...RDM(suggested to come /war for voke to avoid using magic)

    DO NOT CAST ANY SPELL AT ALL ON ANY OF THE MOBS.

    Not even flash, even 1 spell can significantly raise their defense and attack, and 3+ casts can result in an instant loss because it becomes nearly impossible to kill them. Don't enfeeble, don't nuke, don't flash, nothing.
    Guessing you meant PLD provokes the King card >_>

    Also, as others have mentioned, SAM Sekkanoki skillchain will rape the cards, and we go in typically with 1-2 SAM and a MNK all sub WAR. /nin is not necessary at all unless there is no healer (???)

  11. #11
    Hydra
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    107
    BG Level
    3
    FFXIV Character
    Byr Urumet
    FFXIV Server
    Ragnarok
    FFXI Server
    Ragnarok

    Quote Originally Posted by Drace View Post
    Guessing you meant PLD provokes the King card >_>

    Also, as others have mentioned, SAM Sekkanoki skillchain will rape the cards, and we go in typically with 1-2 SAM and a MNK all sub WAR. /nin is not necessary at all unless there is no healer (???)
    Everyone /WAR I find REALLY risky.
    Especially during PLD 2HR or when you know WHM can Benediction if you don't own it fast enough.

    You need an elite group in order to do so IMO.

  12. #12
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    37,887
    BG Level
    10

    did this earlier today

    NIN/WAR kite RDM king of Coins
    me RDM/WAR kite WHM queen
    and SAMX3 rape the BLM then the King then the WHM

    average 4min per fight

  13. #13
    New Spam Forum
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    152
    BG Level
    3
    FFXI Server
    Cerberus

    I did this ksnm yesterday and honestly i felt like i was not needed at all pld/war
    The mobs are so easy to kite, anyone could do it.
    Had to wait to rest for last mob on first fight, then for the rest i just stoped doing anythin, fight was a lot faster smother, felt pretty useless, so instead of pld i would say any DD/nin would be a lot better, blm mob goes down fast so dont need to kite for long.
    Cant keep hate with erase hate move and not being able to use flash.
    Think rdm/nin could easily kite them both.
    Set up was,
    Sam-SAm-Rng-Whm-Rdm-Pld
    Easiest ksnm ever.

  14. #14
    RIDE ARMOR
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    18
    BG Level
    1

    I always take seven to do this BC, save more time subbing in a DD and doing seven runs then having to wait on the long run back. We went with SAMs for DD's, 2 RDM, PLD really easy and I agree a DD could easily take the PLDs spot but with atonement our PLD does pretty good when he comes back in to fight

  15. #15
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    681
    BG Level
    5
    FFXIV Character
    Rith Ridan
    FFXIV Server
    Cerberus
    FFXI Server
    Gilgamesh
    WoW Realm
    Azjol-Nerub

    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop52 View Post
    I always take seven to do this BC, save more time subbing in a DD and doing seven runs then having to wait on the long run back. We went with SAMs for DD's, 2 RDM, PLD really easy and I agree a DD could easily take the PLDs spot but with atonement our PLD does pretty good when he comes back in to fight
    Thats the best tip anyone could give, the long walk back to the BC area takes longer then the actual fight itself!

  16. #16
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    8,215
    BG Level
    8

    Or you could just have one of the healers sub black mage and then have them open the chest each run and walk back.

  17. #17
    Hydra
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    117
    BG Level
    3
    FFXI Server
    Diabolos
    WoW Realm
    The Underbog

    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Or you could just have one of the healers sub black mage and then have them open the chest each run and walk back.
    This^^. Its a hell of a long walk back ><

Similar Threads

  1. Ballista Royale accounts
    By Takeno in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 2005-11-26, 10:41
  2. Eye of the Storm, ks30 Chamber of Oracles
    By Danos in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 2005-11-19, 22:32
  3. Ballista Royale Server Finals
    By Kimiko in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: 2005-11-07, 19:24
  4. Ballista Royale - Round 3 Matches
    By Kimiko in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 2005-11-01, 03:23
  5. 2nd Round Ballista Royale Matches
    By Kimiko in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 2005-10-23, 13:52
  6. Ballista Royale LOL
    By Kimiko in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 2005-10-13, 01:14
  7. Entries Now Being Accepted For "Ballista Royale" E
    By Zigma in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 2005-09-12, 21:01
  8. KS30 fights
    By ono in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 2005-06-25, 20:07