Prices on your server

[Elites]

Mainly interested in knowing how much boiling balaur blood stains are going for on your server, I know someone fucked up the initial price on mine with 299k/per. Everything seems inflated on israphel after the botters got banned, premium weapon flux's are about 300k a pop.

[Akucaen]

Everything inflated when the bots were banned. Nearly all mats and fluxes are up 2-10x more than they were.

[Dulek]

Worthy Fine Armor flux went from 10-20k on Lumiel to over 100k now. Not even worth to make some armors at the moment.

To me, aether seems roughly unchanged along with other gather materials.

[Saxon]

Expert Fine Armor Fluxes are 450k on Kalil c.c

[Pooky]

Boiling Bloods: 250-300k
Expert Major Armor Flux: 7-900k


Its to the point where crafted gear is a loss even if you crit. But hey, at least the bots are gone right?

[Syntex]

Manastone prices?

Crit mainly because its the most used..

+13 150k-175k
+15 275k-350k

You guys?

[Varg]

+13 is 110k-130k
+15 is 240k-250k
boiling blood stains 200k-250k on Ariel

[Iku]

Boiling Balaur Blood Stain = 60k - 80k on Vaizel

Premium Weapon Flux = 300k
Worthy Premium Weapon Flux = 1M+

[arus2001]

Its to the point where crafted gear is a loss even if you crit. But hey, at least the bots are gone right?

I'd call the backlash a result of people trying to force things too soon. Yeah, getting to 399 in a craft isn't all that hard, but if a small fraction of your server's population is over 45, then it's kind of your server's fault. Sure, farmers will always hold the power over crafters in this game, legit or not, but it's all the impatient fuckwits that've let things get out of hand. Even if you're conservative on material costs, it only takes one undercutter to screw you.

Only way I can see a crafter reasonably taking on their test is if their legion is also of level and they collectively contribute fluxes they find to one another. The stupid rich dudes that seem to HQ everything aren't the norm, but there's also a whole lot of overvaluing and undervaluing gear to go around to perpetuate the mess.

[Pooky]

I'd call the backlash a result of people trying to force things too soon. Yeah, getting to 399 in a craft isn't all that hard, but if a small fraction of your server's population is over 45, then it's kind of your server's fault. Sure, farmers will always hold the power over crafters in this game, legit or not, but it's all the impatient fuckwits that've let things get out of hand. Even if you're conservative on material costs, it only takes one undercutter to screw you.

Only way I can see a crafter reasonably taking on their test is if their legion is also of level and they collectively contribute fluxes they find to one another. The stupid rich dudes that seem to HQ everything aren't the norm, but there's also a whole lot of overvaluing and undervaluing gear to go around to perpetuate the mess.

The test isn't a problem at all, the retarded overpricing of fluxes to make gear because of oh 50000 less people farming is what jacked the price. How are people who are getting a craft for say Miragents "impatient"? You hit 50, did all the missions, the only thing left is to craft, farm AP/balaur mats and run instances.

[arus2001]

And what about the glut of people in the thirties who think they'll make it big with Expert level? That's who the farmers are targeting, really. And I guess the kinah buyers.

[Pooky]

And what about the glut of people in the thirties who think they'll make it big with Expert level? That's who the farmers are targeting, really. And I guess the kinah buyers.

Lol. The farmers are not "targetiing" anyone, mainly because the only way you "farm" fluxes is by killing a shitton of mobs. Take out 50000 people who do nothing but grind, leave the same number of experts (plus more as people hit expert) and that will drive the prices up, simple as that.

[arus2001]

I'd say you're overestimating the suppliers, but we'll at least agree demand is high.

Though, when I say people are shooting for Expert level too soon, it's because they can't farm the things themselves. So, instead of people 45+ fighting amongst themselves in the economy, it's basically anyone 30+ who thought it'd be easy... at first. Then the crafters were dumb enough to accept the prices farmers were putting out. Now we're all paying for it, one way or another.

[Elites]

Boiling Balaur Blood Stain = 60k - 80k on Vaizel

Premium Weapon Flux = 300k
Worthy Premium Weapon Flux = 1M+

Holy fuck i wish i was on your server : ( 60-80k would be a godsend on israphel.

Crit +15's = 240-280k per

[Pooky]

I'd say you're overestimating the suppliers, but we'll at least agree demand is high.

Though, when I say people are shooting for Expert level too soon, it's because they can't farm the things themselves. So, instead of people 45+ fighting amongst themselves in the economy, it's basically anyone 30+ who thought it'd be easy... at first. Then the crafters were dumb enough to accept the prices farmers were putting out. Now we're all paying for it, one way or another.

Its not the level 30 experts that are the problem, its the demand for the fluxes with less people to farm them. I'm not overestimating the suppliers at all, its just simple math: the more mobs you kill, the more drops you get. Since bots are only grinding (no quests at all) all of their exp is just straight from farming, and when you consider the amount of mobs needed to level (and account for bot underkilling) you're talking about a LOT of mobs killed per bot; which equals more stones.

The 45+ don't matter in the expert market, as they're not the ones farming the stones needed for armor/weapons. Premium stones are a total joke, and aren't even worth mentioning now that we're past the second week of release.

As much as everyone hates the bots, they're actually helpful from a crafter's pov due how they crash the flux market by extreme farming and rabid undercuts. Its also the reason why Manastones are so expensive now, so much demand, so many less people getting them as drops.

[MrSamuels]

About 200k for Boiling Balaur blood at the moment on Telemachus (EU server) it doesnt help when you have people who only buy the blood though instead of farm them and buy some with what they farmed, have the same guy shouting 24/7 that he is buying, and he even bought one for 380k -.- i personally just gave up on this quest 0/3 myself, and it just makes me pissed off seeing it fail.

Fluxes fluctuate a lot on our server, but because a lot of people are going for their miragent shoulders and getting alot of drops the worthy prem are around 600-800k for weapon and about 500k for armor.

[Abandon]

Sold Triora Jelly Recipe for 400k yesterday XD

[LurkaKitty]

Azphel

Boiling Balaur Stain:265-285k
Premium Weapon Flux: 133-170k
Worthy Fine Armor Flux: 89-199k
Expert Fine Armor Flux: 793-999k
Expert Major Armor Flux: 840-990k
Crit +13: 140-185k
Crit +15: 234-274k