what are some good 46inch+, HDTV's for gaming and great pictures?

[Reeno]

Well seeing as how everyone helped me build my custom PC that is amazing i thought i would post here, because im upgrading my TV now and looking for a nice one. i have no budget for the tv. im looking for 46inches to 58inches. thank you!

[Senji]

I use this 46" Sony Bravia tv. Have everything hooked up to it, and switch back and forth between it and regular monitors for gaming/work. Comparing to a lot in Best Buy/Hippos/other stores, it was the nicest for not massive amounts of money, but far better than the lower end. Makes sense as its Sony's middle tv, 2 step down from the XBR. Actually bought a 2nd for my brother.

[SnickySnacks]

Sort of a loaded suggestion at this point, but...

I'm a big fan of the Samsung LED DLPs.

Of course, due to the fact that they had such slim margins they were phased out last year.

I guess it was too consumer friendly to offer a 65" TV for less than $1800 (Compare that to $3500 for 55" LED, $2800 for 55" LCD, or $3200 for 58" Plasma).

/sigh.

On the plus side, you can pick up a 61" LED DLP for around $1300 these days. :I

[CoronA1979]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889253209

Bought it a few weeks ago and absolutely love it

[LiquidFriend]

How is the lighting situation in the room the TV will go into?

[Reeno]

right now i just recently moved back in with my rents so im in the basement, but in summer im getting my own apt so ya it will be dark for now until summer then it will be in a lighted area.

[Kryssan]

I'll second the DLP opinion. I've been using a Toshiba 62" for 5 years now and love it, though I'll probably upgrade here soon. They've come a long way since I bought mine, and it's about time to up it.

[Reeno]

usually i try to stick with LED/LCD and ive heard DLP is horrible. but im not TV genius. also i was looking at this nice nice Samsung Plasma 58inch for like 1600, at like a Sears Outlet, but i heard plasma sucks too... :/

[Ruiner]

Anyone who tells you plasma sucks is either clueless, terrible at minimal routine maintenance, speaking from experience years ago when plasmas did suck, or has just never used a quality plasma display. I've had my Panasonic TC-P54G10 for about six months now, and I couldn't be happier with it. The stereotypical plasma issues like burn-in are practically non-issues with modern day displays, as long as you're not retarded. If you want a good HDTV, for my money I'd take a plasma over an LCD any day.

[viperlasson]

I wouldn't get a dlp. Sure you get more inches for the $. But you lose quality. I have a 52" Samsung 720p dlp. And the blacks are pretty bad when watching movies. I got it for $650 a couple years ago, so it was a steal back then. Definitely +1 for plasma.

[Reeno]

ya the plasma picture was really nice in the store but i heard about like the gases getting messed up and the burn-in so i was worried about it. i think i might pick that baby up haha right now i have a 52inch LCD Samsung that will go into my bedroom haha

[Kryssan]

I wouldn't get a dlp. Sure you get more inches for the $. But you lose quality. I have a 52" Samsung 720p dlp. And the blacks are pretty bad when watching movies. I got it for $650 a couple years ago, so it was a steal back then. Definitely +1 for plasma.

Um, what? DLP is on the same lines as plasma when it comes to contrast, the problems with DLP is the rainbow effect, having to buy bulbs, knowing you can't mount it on the wall, warmup/cooldown times, and the 'flicker'. The rainbow effect has been mostly eliminated with the newer DLPs (not completely). Nowadays they don't even use color wheels like they used to, they use LEDs. Bulbs is still an issue, but personally I'd rather buy a TV that's designed to fail where I know the component that will fail. DLPs will never have dead pixels or burn in, for example (yes, I know burn in on plasma is one of the great overexaggerations of tvs). And of course you'll not be hanging your DLP from the ceiling or your wall.

Like I said, I've had mine for 5 years now and love it to death, but the newer ones have much nicer features that go along better with computers. Flicker is mostly eliminated with DLP, basically its some humans are able to see the screen changes, which is kind of tied into the rainbow effect. I was able to, and it took a few months to get used to it and ignore it but wasn't a major issue to me.




I think you must not have gotten a good quality one if you're having those kinds of problems with DLP. That or you never calibrated it perhaps. Any midranged/upper ranged DLP TV will be able to put out near/same contrast as a plasma. Mine's a 1080i, and the only real issue I have with it is going from my LCD screens and it, since I expect the colors to be this but the TV shows them with much better contrast.

Nowadays with the way prices are, getting a bulb plan and going DLP will save you a lot of money for screen size while still giving you nice results. Once again though depends on your situation. If you're one of those people that can see the rainbow (which is really hard to do on the newer ones, honestly), or want a thin TV for your wall, DLP is not for you.

[Darus Grey]

Um, what? DLP is on the same lines as plasma when it comes to contrast, the problems with DLP is the rainbow effect, having to buy bulbs, knowing you can't mount it on the wall, warmup/cooldown times, and the 'flicker'.

You forgot to mention the one gamers might care about, DLPs on average have the worst input lag by a wide margin, often 80ms+... after game mode. Which plasma is king at, standing around with CRTs.

[Reeno]

plasma have the least amount of lag?

[Kryssan]

I've honestly had no issues with that. My TV was not originally designed to work with computers (it was one of the early 1080 models - as seen by the i and not p in the designation - and has no computer inputs), there are really large/loud labels in my instruction booklet about not using computers with your TV but a little modification takes care of it.


Maybe its something to do with the type of processor being used by certain ones? Not sure to be honest.




Actually, just did a quick research on it to see what I could come up with, seems to be a problem with certain models having an input lag. Doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it though from what I can tell. The common theory from my relatively quick and limited look into it seems to be that older systems with lower sets that require scaling to display properly slowed down significantly and resulted in an input lag. Would require more research to see if there is a pattern, but I don't have time to look into it at the moment.

[Kryssan]

plasma have the least amount of lag?

Plasma have a high refresh ability due to their make. LCDs are usually limited to around 120Hz, where as plasma is usually boasted to be 600Hz+. Note that the refresh value on Plasma is just a comparison some manufacturers include to show you what it would be equivocal to on an LCD.

[viperlasson]

It could definitely be a calibration issue since I've never attempted to or had it calibrated. Do you get it professionally done?

[Kryssan]

It could definitely be a calibration issue since I've never attempted to or had it calibrated. Do you get it professionally done?

No, though I did consider it. Toshiba's instructions were fairly simple and straight forwards, and they have a decent tech support as well. At least they did, haven't had a reason to call them since. If you want it done well and right the first time then look/ask around and see if there are any techs in the area. Then again if your TV is already that old I don't know that you'd care to spend the money on it now. Like I said I love mine but still considering upgrading for the newer features they've incorporated into the technology.


After looking more into the gaming input issue, it seems from a lot of the articles that I read it was based on the processor and upscaling issues with certain TVs. Just means people should do their research prior to buying, which should apply to any purchase that you put that much money on.

[Deadgye]

I'd personally say get a good IPS monitor and two good TN monitors for the price of a quality HDTV; but then you'd need to upgrade your video card. XD

[SnickySnacks]

Older DLPs were so so. The newer LED DLPs were top of the line, though. No rainbowing issues or anything.

As for input lag, that generally occurred when you had a game hooked up that had to be deinterlaced (i.e. you were using composite connections). But who really does that these days? 360 and PS3 both output 1080p just fine. (side note: I did test this back in the day with Guitar Hero 2 on PS2. Regular composite yellow cable did have pretty nasty lag. Hooked up with component in progressive mode and there was no lag). These days it's HDMI or nothing though, so it's a non-issue really. Even the lowly Wii supports 480p...

LED DLP has virtually no warmup/cooldown time, flicker, rainbow, or anything like that. And of course, no screen burn in regardless of how careless you feel like being with it. Plus DLPs have very wide horizontal viewing angles, which is nice if your living room is spread out. (they generally have ok vertical viewing angles, too, but you probably wouldn't want to be sitting on the floor while watching it)

However, DLPs can get dead pixels (technically stuck mirrors - my last one did, which was when I replaced it after 5-ish years) and dead bulbs of course. I figure by the time my LED burns out it may or may not matter. The bulbs in the TVs are fairly inexpensive to replace, anyways, last I checked.

As I said before, the reason DLP tvs were discontinued wasn't because they were bad, it was because they undercut the more profitable flat screen sales at a much, much lower price point.


As I've said before, I'd buy one again if I had the chance. For the price/size/performance I've never been let down. Pity all the fools who pay twice as much for a screen half the size, etc etc etc.

My tv is a Samsung HL67A750S, not that anyone cares.