Gunman kills several in Cumbria rampage

[drwaffles]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm

At least five people have been killed and several others injured after a gunman opened fire in west Cumbria.

Police say a body, believed to be that of suspect Derrick Bird, has been found in the Boot area of the Lake District.

The first reported fatal shooting was in Whitehaven at 1035 BST, after which the gunman fled east.

A GP in the town of Seascale said he and a colleague had later certified two other people dead.

Dr Barrie Walker said: "The surgery was called and I went out. I've certified one of them dead. My colleague saw another," he said.

"At present there are two people dead and one seriously injured in Seascale. I know one of the victims. She was in the street.

"The second person was on a bicycle and was shot on the bike."

BBC Look North Chief Reporter Chris Stewart said a farmer is also believed to have been killed in the Gosforth area.

Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Hyde said he believed Derrick Bird's body had been found

A major incident has been declared at West Cumberland Hospital, in Whitehaven, where the NHS said all routine operations had been cancelled.

The Accident and Emergency department at the Cumberland Infirmary in Carlisle is also on full incident stand-by, the hospital trust said.

At the start of Prime Minister's Questions David Cameron expressed his shock at the events which had unfolded.

He said: "The government will do everything it possibly can to help the local community and those affected.

"When lives and communities are suddenly shattered in this way, our thoughts should be with all those caught up with these tragic events."

Only a couple of hours from where I live. Pretty scary stuff - Cumbria is the most sparsely populated county in the country, basically comprised of small villages dotted around the place, and police sent out the message for everyone in the western and central parts of the Lake District to stay indoors until the killer was apprehended. It's not mentioned in this article but apparently most of the victims were shot in the face at point-blank range.

In case you don't know much about rural parts of England, this will probably be the most eventful thing to occur in Cumbria this century. Too bad the guy offed himself, now we might never know what prompted him to do it.

[[Cookies]]

Oh lovely, an hour away from me.

[GarraMcOwnage]

Damn I'm not too far from there as well. First there was a stabbing about 100 meters away from me on friday and now this.

[Oktober]

Fuuuck I live like 10 mins away from this

[tyven]

does not seem to be so sparsely populated if 4 of you sodding cunts on a video game forum live within an hour of it.

[SephYuyX]

now we might never know what prompted him to do it.

They had it cumming.

[Korietsu]

Shame only criminals have weapons over there.

[Linliel]

Tyven, England isn't like America, everywhere is a couple of hours from everywhere, lol.

[Lucavi]

Shame only criminals have weapons over there.

Not like non-criminals having weapons in the states stops crime here. Still plenty of crime every day.

[SephYuyX]

Cornwall is 7hrs away.

[Blabj]

It's like an hour and a half from me, not that I'm worried.

[Korietsu]

Not like non-criminals having weapons in the states stops crime here. Still plenty of crime every day.

Stops plenty of violent crime on a yearly basis. There are always going to be criminals, and there are always going to be illegal guns/weapons. But when being a nanny state comes to
http://roflcopter.im/plog-content/im...f-18-years.jpg

You've got problems. When your average police officer can't carry a duty weapon, that's a problem too.

Compared to about 35,000 gun deaths every year, 2.5 million good Americans use guns to protect themselves, their families, and their
livelihoods - there are 65 lives protected by guns for every life lost to a gun - five lives are protected per minute - and, of those 2.5 million
protective uses of guns, about 1/2 million are believed to have saved lives.

Citation, Suter E. "Guns in the Medical Literature - A Failure of Peer
Review." Journal of the Medical Association of Georgia. March 1994; 83:
133-48.

* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.

Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime," at 173, 185.

* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606)25. And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The ‘error rate’ for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."

George F. Will, "Are We ‘a Nation of Cowards’?," Newsweek (15 November 1993):93.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty."

"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation had full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future."

-Adolf Hitler

[Antithesis]

It's like an hour and a half from me, not that I'm worried.

teehee

[Despain]

Killing 5 people and injuring several others is apparently a rampage. Cumbria must be a boring town.

[Cesaria]

does not seem to be so sparsely populated if 4 of you sodding cunts on a video game forum live within an hour of it.

Or - there's fuck all else to do around there but play video games (having had the misfortune to have an ex who lives in Whitehaven and spent some time there - I can vouch for the "naff all to do" aspect of it).

[Korietsu]

Killing 5 people and injuring several others is apparently a rampage. Cumbria must be a boring town.

12+ Gunman at this point
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe...pt=T1&iref=BN1

[Kuya]

A guy just mentioned Hitler. Thread over.

[drwaffles]

Killing 5 people and injuring several others is apparently a rampage. Cumbria must be a boring town.

It's a county, not a town.

Also, using Hitler as your sole example of a counterargument to your main point is hilarious.

[Kumbai]

It's in the Lake District.. which is quite a popular tourist place.. not that I've ever been intrested in going :3

Stuff like this doesn't overly happen in the UK though, so when it does there is usually quite a big impact on everything ;3

And Cookies is copying my Gaga related avatars :/ Epic fail. She looked epic when she wore that dress at the O2 though :3

[drwaffles]

Gaga related avatars :/ Epic fail.

Indeed.