An interesting read.

[fredjanx]

Not sure if it's been posted before, but this was on AH a while ago. I just want to know what BG people think about it.
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(basically, a review about FFXI)

[Draylo]

Casual gamers... they suck

[ronin sparthos]

Uh, did I just turn on my PC to early 2004? lol.

XI was a horrible MMO back then and made things way harder than they needed to be. It left a sour taste in the mouth of many a gamer and could be considered a failure. While I can side with some of the points raised in that "review", XIV isn't really doing much different than XI was doing then.

Today's XI is only so much fun because of those years of shit.

[fredjanx]

Today's XI is only so much fun because of those years of shit.

I was browsing old threads a couple months ago, and saw some 2004 posts saying that kirin and wyrms took like 50+ people.
That must have been really horrible.... D:

[Humblejoe]

If you were a really good LS you could take Kirin down in about 2 hours...

[Byrthnoth]

Really good LSs survived Kirin's minigod pops and then slowly slowly killed him (factoring in a wipe or two to Astral Flow and such. IIRC, the first Kirin kill they kited him until he ran out of MP.

[The_OG_Nelta]

Wait.. wait... There's a story line in this game????

[The_OG_Nelta]

Really good LSs survived Kirin's minigod pops and then slowly slowly killed him (factoring in a wipe or two to Astral Flow and such. IIRC, the first Kirin kill they ASPIR him until he ran out of MP.

ftfy

[Taint]

Really good LSs survived Kirin's minigod pops and then slowly slowly killed him (factoring in a wipe or two to Astral Flow and such. IIRC, the first Kirin kill they kited him until he ran out of MP.

That was our strat way back in the day LOL took 2hrs or so.

[ronin sparthos]

First Vrtra:

3% Cyclone Wing -> one Garuda not dismissed -> 50ish people asleep -> Vrtra flails -> Epic wipeout.

Oh how I don't miss "old" FFXI.

[Necromage]

"As a Red Mage, my task was to cast Paralyze, Slow, Dia, and Bio (always in that order)"

right

[Spira]

old review is old. MMORPGs evolve and that review isn't even close to what FFXI has become.

XI has really gone through a huge metamorphosis since its early days. You could even say it has become an entirely different game, since each expansion has been shaking things up.

Vanilla XI was harsh. It was playable but it was tough and not very rewarding, but that was how MMORPGs were fun back in the day.
Zilart opened up the game and expanded the horizons, made the game somewhat more playable.. but it was still a tough game.
CoP was.. a hardcore gamers paradise. Everything about it was brutally tedious, even if it made clearing them more fulfilling. the story/cutscenes were a huge step up, and gameplay did take a turn for the better. But It was still very firmly structured..
ToAU loosened the game up as it moved towards being more casual and player friendly. I suppose this could be seen to be the golden age of FFXI, since casual players could easily hop onto ToAU content, and the slightly more masochistic ones could still go back to CoP.
WotG.. didn't really improve on much, but Campaign did make leveling slightly easier...

but none of that compares to what Abyssea has done to the game tho. it changed everything completely. its actually super fun now. If there were more abyssean zones and more people playing in general, i'd think FFXI would be so much more fun.. oh and if they didn't limit your access to it

[fredjanx]

Wait.. wait... There's a story line in this game????

Yes.

Spoiler: show

* Rise of the Zilart - At least 100 years ago a bunch of people got bored and decided to build a gate to Heaven. During this someone decided to divide by zero and everyone died except two brothers who don't age and a few others no one cares about. Over 9000 years later they finally decide to try opening the gate and thereby destroy the world for some reason Completion results in you getting an earring that you'll use about 5% of the time and access to a floating island full of real money traders and pricks. You'll find long cutscenes and little E-penis factor seeing as how the missions are now considered retarded easy.

* Chains of Promathia - The FFXI version of Satan is sending the FFXI version of the Antichrist to tell everyone that he will delete fucking everything. This causes Drama for everyone. Bahamut saw what was going on there and decides that to keep Promathia from coming to this world he will kill fucking everyone, thus making him the smartest thing in the game. Its pretty much the same "Destroying the world" thing as the previous expansion, but it's a lot harder, the cutscenes are a lot longer, and it features loli jailb8 Mary Sue Prishe. Completion results in access to areas with nothing in them and a different dimension designed by Da Vinci while tripping on acid. You also get a ring that you could have used at the start. The missions are getting easier but player intelligence isn't rising so most are still stuck on the first mission, so much E-penis can be attained here.

Shit nobody cares about - If you finish both of the previous expansion missions you hear that you fucked up and another Antichrist is coming and Bahamut wants to kill everyone again so its like you didn't do shit for the past 2 years that you've been working on these expansions (not that its any different from what's going on in your life). Completion results in an earring that will boost your E-penis factor over 9000.

* Treasures of Aht Urghan - You get to go to the Middle East. Some government people are trying to bring about Alexander and Odin is trying to find an avatar so he can come back and fight Alexander. In the midst of this epic Catnarok most of the world will be destroyed. Pretty much the same thing except only most of the world gets destroyed this time and the cutscenes get even longer. Completion results in a ring that's only good about 3% of the time. Getting down on your knees and blowing Odin is the only way you don't get your ass handed to you. I'm not kidding you.

* Wings of the Goddess - You get to violate the space-time continuum and possibly become your own grandfather. What happens is, you're on your way to Jeuno traveling the same route you take every day but this time you encounter a giant anus which sucks you in and shits you out in the past. Here, some dominatrix thing with her sex slaves is trying to fuck shit up in the past. Also male Mithra.

* A Crystalline Prophecy - Crystal thing wants to destroy the world.

* A Moogle Kupo d'Etat - You have to clean up your house.

* A Shantotto Ascension - Midget somehow clones herself and the clone wants to take over the world. Midget 1 decides to join clone. Nothing happens.

[D44kpunk]

Agree with most of what he said, ffxi is a slow paced/boring game. I've thought of myself as a factory worker constantly playing this game he's absolutely correct on that standpoint.

He's also right when he says an hour isn't time to do anything (usually if I had an hour lunch break I wouldn't even bother logging in FFXI, too little time to get anything done.)

[Draylo]

Why do you still play then? lol, doesn't feel that way to me. I love playing this game and I have a lot of fun.

[rog]

I got about 5 words in before i realized it was copypasta from ED.

[GoggleHead]

http://right-thoughts.us/images/uplo...shit_again.jpg

[Karbuncle]

Review sounds like its coming from a whiny casual who sucked at the game. Took him like 42 days to get to what? level 20? i didn't even bother looking he was still in the dunes. Took me like, 5 hours to get my sub job from 1~25 Soloing Fields of Valor pages on ~EP mobs and a MMM run or two with a friend.

How old is this review seriously ~.~?

Did i mention he whined a lot?

Like seriously, it was painful reading his review "Oh i leveled MNK to 32 and unlocked COR My COR shud be levul 32 as well HUR HUR HUR WAAAAH"

[rog]

Review sounds like its coming from a whiny casual who sucked at the game. Took him like 42 days to get to what? level 20? i didn't even bother looking he was still in the dunes. Took me like, 5 hours to get my sub job from 1~25 Soloing Fields of Valor pages on ~EP mobs and a MMM run or two with a friend.

How old is this review seriously ~.~?

It's from around 2005 or 2006 i think.

[Pandorablue]

He implied the idea of level sync, meaning it has to be post-2007 at least.