Dear BG: What are your hobbies?

[Zalius]

It doesn't matter what the hobby is, I will read it and am interested in learning about it. Scuba diving, photograph, art, gaming, literature, poetry, whaling (please don't say whaling), dog breeding...whatever. Doesn't matter.

I'm mostly, though, interested in the basic human skills that are needed for being successful at the hobby. Just as an example: if you'd like to play video games successfully at a hobby, the skills that you need are going to be dependent upon the game you're playing. (Note, if gaming is your hobby, be specific as to which games you play most.)

• Chess, for example, has a large element of projecting possibility - being able to read the game many turns ahead of time while managing behavioral expectations.
• An MMORPG is often rooted in team synergy, maximizing output factors, and reading economic trends in the case of the auction house.
• Fighting games are rooted in reaction time, categorical knowledge of the way that different opposing moves interact, as well as maximizing outputs.

I figured this is probably the most relevant explanation for BG cause basically everybody here plays games, or has a probably played them a lot in the past.

Also, if you have 2 hobbies that you've noticed feed directly back into each other, I'm interested in knowing what those are too. I'll be giving my own examples just to explain the sort of things that I'm looking for - I'm researching an idea I have for a long term (5+ year) book project, so I'm going to read everything posted. I'm also bored and looking to find a few hobbies that have better synergy with the things that I'm most interested in doing with my life.


Mine (You don't need to format yours like mine, just explain what you feel is most responsible for success):

1. The Electric Guitar. The instrument itself (unrelated to music) is rooted in muscle memory, pattern recognition and the human ability to create sounds through thought. At a certain point, it strongly promotes learning more about music, which becomes another hobby of it's own that fuses itself with the instrument, creating a very strong feedback system.
2. Music Theory. Music is strongly based in pattern recognition and distorting/dividing the passage of time, the contrast of sounds over time and the connection between sound and human emotion. It creates a feedback system with any instrument that is constructed in a way that matches with music theory.

These are 2 of mine - I have a lot more but I've gotta get going right now. I'll probably post more later but I will mostly be asking questions about hobbies that you guys have.

toodles

[shaddix]

Nutrition, can that be a hobby? I'm trying to become a professional at it. - A healthy fear of modern disease.

Lifting. The realization that nothing tastes as good as lean feels. Joking. An addiction to setting personal records? More like grinding I guess, probably loving the XI grind is correlated with being good at lifting.

Car. I just started this one. I suck at it so I can't tell you what you need to be good at it.

[isladar]

Watercolour painting: Intense knowledge of the medium as well as the ability to say "fuck it" when something squirrelly happens with the paint. It's always a conversation rather than a project, and 90% of the magic happens when you're dealing with a "mistake".

Composing music on the computer: was going to write "electronic music" but that's not accurate. Interesting combination of needing to think creatively and technically at the same time.

[tyven]

smoking cigarettes and watching sprot

[tyven]

Composing music on the computer: was going to write "electronic music" but that's not accurate. Interesting combination of needing to think creatively and technically at the same time.

LOL OKAY SKRILLEX

[Dimmauk]

My wife and children, Salt water aquariums, martial arts, home improvement, FFXI, electronics.

[Cream Soda]

I like to go to the gym. The only skills really needed are the ability to research and lift within your means with proper form. For example, benching 200 lbs with good form is going to do you more good than having to use bad form to lift 215. (a lot of people don't realize this and just like to wave their dicks around at how much they can do)

I like to play games, but you seem to have the skills necessary for that down already.

My other hobby is Karate. I'm not too good at it, just started like 6 months ago and it's only once a week. That being said, practicing on my own time, outside of instruction seems to be a required skill. It really does come down to repetition, so repeating it as much as I can on my own time seems to help tons. Also, I've been doing 20-30 mins of stretching at least every other day. For me, it's been pretty much required to see any actual difference in my kicking ability. For the first 3-4 months I just did our pre-krate and after training stretches on the day we did it, but my kicks never improved. For the last 2 monthsish, I've been stretching on my own time and I've noticed a pretty big difference. Making improvement with every training session now.

[Kaisha]

Cartooning. Seeing things around you in real life, and thinking of ways best to make a caricature of or anthropomorphizing to a recognizable but exagerrated state, typically at someone's expense to make another smile. Not that good at it myself, which doesn't help since I've not put pencil to paper in quite some time, but it gets you to appreciate the variety of shapes in folks walking down the street, animals, and general objects, as well as their behavior which helps to try and capture in the process of mucking with the shapes to make something else out of it. It requires some creativity as well as decent perception of 3d space on a 2d workspace (re: paper) to capture someone's essence and have other people be able to look at it and instantly grasp what the thing you doodled is.



I would do one for traditional animation, but I wouldn't know where to fucking start on it as it encompasses a fuckton of different subjects and skills. That and I also suck at it, but it's one of those long-term things since it's such a demanding medium. The bloody thing requires knowledge of stage planning, the timing of the events and movements (crucial), acting (since you're making characters come to life one drawing at a time, not throwing a Hollywood actor at it), observation and understanding of movement itself, as well as trying to make it your pages flow fluidly from frame to frame while you exaggerate the size/shape of moving objects to work within the 12 drawings-a-second limit (doing a full 24 frames is excruciatingly time consuming and expensive, typically reserved for very fast motions).

It's such an under-appreciated medium these days where CGI animation rules everything in the animation department these days since you can just wow with interpolation of key frames and eye-candy.


Can't wait for someone to post their hobby being the art of muscle memory on an 8-way joystick and a series of buttons.

[dejet]

Health and lifting have become a huge part of my life in the past year and a half. Thanks mostly to the group of people here on BG.

you need to have patience and understanding of forms(CS is very right here, I never bench more then 150 lb because my form seems to go to shit). Little to no shame to start out light on new lifts to get to where you want. Be willing to look fat one month and fucking hot the next LOL

Lifting goes hand and hand with nutrition, doing one without the other is almost a waste of time really. Its one hell of a fun hobby if you ask me.

CS can I ask what type of karate you do? iv been thinking of doing the same for almost a year now and none of my friends do it, so I been having a hard time picking anything LOL

[Dimmauk]

smoking cigarettes and watching sprot

Shopping for man purses and jet setting around the world in search of the perfect skinny jeans is also a good hobby.

[Greatguardian]

Reading real books. By that I mean physical copies rather than e-books. I'm one of those douchebags that will take up a library printer for like 20 minutes printing out whole ebooks because I vastly prefer paper. It's relaxing and fun. As far as skill sets go, a decent grasp of the English language and a high school reading level are helpful. The latter is significantly more uncommon than even the most cynical internet lurker may think. Reading helps to remedy that, though.

I dabble in martial arts, music (practice and theory), literary analysis, and pretty much anything that catches my eye. I have a bad habit of picking things up, getting good at them, and then dropping them. I have a black belt in both WTF (Olympic style) Tae Kwon Do and Jiu Jitsu, but only occasionally practice TKD right now. In general my hobby could be most accurately described as learning new things. The only skill it takes is a desire to learn. You can do pretty much anything if you try. This pretty much relates right back to reading.

Also, being a boss. It's less of a hobby and more of a lifestyle. Haters gonna hate.

[Hyan]

I also like to go to the gym. There's quite a lot of stuff you can do wrong so yeah, research is important- although I'm sure you can get results with less orthodox methods.... I have also taken up jogging as well, since I am in a terrible shape after my XI years. Naturally nutrition is also a part of the process although I'm not much of a cook- basic healthy stuff is what I make and eat. So that means I know how to boil water and fry meat lol. Researching what ingredients are good and sticking to eating them is more important for me than making all sorts of fancy food.

I also study Japanese as a hobby. While other languages might be easily learnt using all sorts of techniques I feel like this is a language that you can totally screw up when learning resulting in tons of wasted time. That said once again ability to research comes on top. Perhaps even laziness- since that drives you to look for more efficient means to study instead of sticking to what's the standard (inefficient) procedure. I definitely got that one down. The way I have studied so far requires not just memorization 'skill' but the ability to visualize mnemonics in your mind. While my studies have been very much input-based I feel that I should start practicing output as soon as possible (like babies do). Comprehension alone won't get you far enough, and starting to reproduce the language too late will hinder you in the long run. At the end of the day it comes down to repetitively immersing yourself in the language (esp. native material) until you become familiar with the patterns.

Games are another hobby of mine. I can play everything but personally I am a fan of platformers. In the more challenging platformers the gameplay comes down to having good reaction time and learning the patterns in each level. I can't say I'm very good at them, but I'm not hopeless either.

[Zhais]

Fencing!

A lot of repetition and practice to get the basic actions into muscle memory. After that, a lot of strategy comes into play for beating opponents. Sneaking your way around a defense, or surprising your opponent when they are not ready / least expect it. A lot of physical exertion while needing to keep your cool and think rationally.

[Yuri-G]

I thought we just did this thread? or am I just imagining things? don't care, just curious.

aside from videogames, my main hobby is fire-dancing and glowsticking. I'm focused on poi right now, but plan to take up contact staff at some point.

I also play music and write but haven't done a lot of that lately.

oh and sex. I'm good at sex.

[Pharaun]

Cooking - I made a bitching teriyaki glazed salmon and grilled asparagus dinner last night. I love being able to cook restaurant style meals at home.

Running - One of my goals this year is to run a half marathon.

[Norellicus]

Hmm, how to enumerate my hobbies in a way that is useful for this thread...I'll have to think about it for a bit.

Although at least two of them should be obvious, though for non-obvious reasons.

[Cream Soda]

Lifting goes hand and hand with nutrition, doing one without the other is almost a waste of time really. Its one hell of a fun hobby if you ask me.

CS can I ask what type of karate you do? iv been thinking of doing the same for almost a year now and none of my friends do it, so I been having a hard time picking anything LOL

I guess my good genes carry me over. I straight up don't have the means for good nutrition at the moment. Ramen and dollar menu all day erryday lol and I do well enough. Though, if I did have the means, I probably would eat better and see better results.

As far as the Karate goes, Kyokushin

[Kryssan]

Writing - it's a massive creative outlet that taxes your ability to view perspectives from another's point of view and apply it in a way that makes sense and maintains cohesion. Going from nothing to something is always an intriguing process for me, and I like seeing the process as it builds almost as much as the viewing of the finished product. Also very good for forcing you to do research into topics that you wouldn't have typically thought about otherwise and spreading your bases out more. Currently working on an indepth scifi-fantasy piece for my own amusement and enjoyment.

Reading - love to learn, and I personally think you gain more from reading a book than any other way. I don't necessarily think there is a particular skillset for this one, but when I get involved with a book I want it to stir up my emotions and leave me thinking at the end of it. I also agree with the 'real book' desire, ebooks tend to annoy me if I'm trying to read for a long period of time. I've got quite a library of ebooks, but most of my favourites I also have on my bookshelves and there is nothing quite like the smell of an old, well kept book library.

Kayaking - promotes the buildup of good upper body strength, and it is just all around fun. I prefer being on the water to being on land (go figure) and you'd be amazed the places a kayak can go. Unlike with biking and climbing though, you can also do nothing and still go somewhere if you feel like just lazing about. With the right gear, experience, patience, and luck, you can see things that you just wouldn't find anywhere else. I haven't done any kayaking in several years now though, ever since all my gear and trailer was stolen back in SC. After my contract expires and I get settled somewhere more permanently at least I will definitely be trying to get back into it.

Hobby Models - concentration and precision are key here. I don't build as much as I used to - I'm more of a collector of other people's work these days, everything from a 3ft model of the Bismarck to the typical anime resin / pvc statues - but I do still delve into it. When Polar Lights rereleased their D7 model kit I bought it, and I also bought a Liger Zero kit to build. I threw out most of my modeling supplies before my first deployment to save on space so I'm slowly rebuilding my stock with the intent, again, to get back into this once I have a more permanent living arrangement.



Oh, guess I sort of forgot one. Building computers. Strange, and unfortunately expensive hobby, but I love building them. I refer to them as grown-up legos. Haven't actually built any in a while, though currently about to do one for a friend. Trying not to go through my money that fast anymore - my NewEgg expenditures are waaaay too substantial for my own good, I think.

[vagus]

Isladar, i wanna hear some traxs!

Collecting music. Currently repurchasing cd's which i lost in a house burglary. .mp3 addict. Mainly focus on hip-hop/rap/rnb/breaks/dnb. Record collection is at about 100.

Being a foodie. Instead of just enjoying food, i have to be a hater and point out the good and bad parts of a dish. Usually do this with other douches or bitches. Lol.

[Zalius]

Nutrition, can that be a hobby? I'm trying to become a professional at it. - A healthy fear of modern disease.

Lifting. The realization that nothing tastes as good as lean feels. Joking. An addiction to setting personal records? More like grinding I guess, probably loving the XI grind is correlated with being good at lifting.

Car. I just started this one. I suck at it so I can't tell you what you need to be good at it.

Yeah - I still remember the day I was eating a cheeseburger and realized what a waste it was. There's definitely an aspect to weighing values in nutrition. Self-Improvement is definitely a really strong aspect of lifting though.

Watercolour painting: Intense knowledge of the medium as well as the ability to say "fuck it" when something squirrelly happens with the paint. It's always a conversation rather than a project, and 90% of the magic happens when you're dealing with a "mistake".

Composing music on the computer: was going to write "electronic music" but that's not accurate. Interesting combination of needing to think creatively and technically at the same time.

Really interesting on the painting - dealing with mistakes seems like a pretty big area of life to have thrown in your face by a hobby. How far does a common mistake change work versus a larger mistake? Gotta be frustrating to spend an hour and have your vision spoiled though. I'm interested in some kind of visual art other than photoshop, but I haven't decided on what yet. Some kind of combination between abstract, visual illusions, calligraphy and digital art.

When you say composing, do you mean writing sheet music interactively within programs, or do you mean working with programs to produce compositions? Kinda hard to phrase that question. I'm definitely interested in this because I want to incorporate meditative electronic+ambient stuff into my other styles, but that's still out of my league as far as using any programs to make music goes. My biggest concern though is finding something that supports full 360 degree sounds and lets me interactively move how far away the music is/making it "travel" instead of just pumping sound into either ear.

I like to go to the gym. The only skills really needed are the ability to research and lift within your means with proper form. For example, benching 200 lbs with good form is going to do you more good than having to use bad form to lift 215. (a lot of people don't realize this and just like to wave their dicks around at how much they can do)

I like to play games, but you seem to have the skills necessary for that down already.

My other hobby is Karate. I'm not too good at it, just started like 6 months ago and it's only once a week. That being said, practicing on my own time, outside of instruction seems to be a required skill. It really does come down to repetition, so repeating it as much as I can on my own time seems to help tons. Also, I've been doing 20-30 mins of stretching at least every other day. For me, it's been pretty much required to see any actual difference in my kicking ability. For the first 3-4 months I just did our pre-krate and after training stretches on the day we did it, but my kicks never improved. For the last 2 monthsish, I've been stretching on my own time and I've noticed a pretty big difference. Making improvement with every training session now.

Definitely agree with the practicing on your own time thing. I was doing ninpo taijutsu (ninja philosophy+combat) before I got injured, but I was absolutely getting more of my results outside of the dojo than I was inside. I started treating the dojo as my proving grounds+place to level up, while the grind was everywhere else.

I recommend the fuck out of tai chi, it helps with fluid movement. One of the biggest things that I learned from ninpo is that American's are naturally predisposed to clunky movement, and tai chi is a really peaceful way to connect with fluid motion. Walking, moving, running, jumping, throwing punches and kicks, etc. are all so much more fun when you're flowing with them as opposed to mechanically repeating them. I haven't been able to practice due to the same injury, but it's absolutely one of the most relaxing & peaceful ways of exercising I've ever done.

A great first exercises is to stand straight and take two steps forward, then two steps back. Then do it again, but try to walk about an inch farther each time. Once you've done that, start paying attention to the position of your shoulders and neck while taking the steps, then pay attention to your hips, etc, until you're totally aware of all of the smallest motions you're making while walking. Relax and make the motions as comfortable and fluid as you can so that no physical momentum is wasted. After that one exercise I was hooked, once you understand the concept it's easy to create your own exercises. Tai chi music is also beast.

Cartooning. Seeing things around you in real life, and thinking of ways best to make a caricature of or anthropomorphizing to a recognizable but exagerrated state, typically at someone's expense to make another smile. Not that good at it myself, which doesn't help since I've not put pencil to paper in quite some time, but it gets you to appreciate the variety of shapes in folks walking down the street, animals, and general objects, as well as their behavior which helps to try and capture in the process of mucking with the shapes to make something else out of it. It requires some creativity as well as decent perception of 3d space on a 2d workspace (re: paper) to capture someone's essence and have other people be able to look at it and instantly grasp what the thing you doodled is.



I would do one for traditional animation, but I wouldn't know where to fucking start on it as it encompasses a fuckton of different subjects and skills. That and I also suck at it, but it's one of those long-term things since it's such a demanding medium. The bloody thing requires knowledge of stage planning, the timing of the events and movements (crucial), acting (since you're making characters come to life one drawing at a time, not throwing a Hollywood actor at it), observation and understanding of movement itself, as well as trying to make it your pages flow fluidly from frame to frame while you exaggerate the size/shape of moving objects to work within the 12 drawings-a-second limit (doing a full 24 frames is excruciatingly time consuming and expensive, typically reserved for very fast motions).

It's such an under-appreciated medium these days where CGI animation rules everything in the animation department these days since you can just wow with interpolation of key frames and eye-candy.


Can't wait for someone to post their hobby being the art of muscle memory on an 8-way joystick and a series of buttons.

Interesting perspective on cartooning, never thought of it that way. I love stuff like can seamlessly represent reality enough to immerse the mind in it, but I didn't ever really think about that kinda stuff. Good stuff, thanks.

Traditional animation is pretty sweet, it doesn't seem like CGI could completely phase it out though. Never realized that animators also have to do character development, that's pretty cool.

As for the snide comment on fighting games though, you should do some research on the practice habits of top guys in the fighting game scene. There are guys that spend full-time work days on these games, and that's a pretty ignorant generalization of the sport.

Reading real books. By that I mean physical copies rather than e-books. I'm one of those douchebags that will take up a library printer for like 20 minutes printing out whole ebooks because I vastly prefer paper. It's relaxing and fun. As far as skill sets go, a decent grasp of the English language and a high school reading level are helpful. The latter is significantly more uncommon than even the most cynical internet lurker may think. Reading helps to remedy that, though.

I dabble in martial arts, music (practice and theory), literary analysis, and pretty much anything that catches my eye. I have a bad habit of picking things up, getting good at them, and then dropping them. I have a black belt in both WTF (Olympic style) Tae Kwon Do and Jiu Jitsu, but only occasionally practice TKD right now. In general my hobby could be most accurately described as learning new things. The only skill it takes is a desire to learn. You can do pretty much anything if you try. This pretty much relates right back to reading.

Also, being a boss. It's less of a hobby and more of a lifestyle. Haters gonna hate.

For the dabbling thing, since you're a reader anyways, I deeply deeply deeply deeply deeply recommend you check out Mastery by George Carlin. It's one of the most important books I've ever read in my entire life (and I read all of the harry potter books). He has a pretty detailed explanation of "The Dabbler" which you seem to be describing in yourself. I dabble in stuff sometimes too, but after reading it I'm much more focused and fixated, as well as content with learning over time and allowing plateaus to pass rather than getting frustrated and giving it up for the next thing and repeating the cycle with that.

I also like to go to the gym. There's quite a lot of stuff you can do wrong so yeah, research is important- although I'm sure you can get results with less orthodox methods.... I have also taken up jogging as well, since I am in a terrible shape after my XI years. Naturally nutrition is also a part of the process although I'm not much of a cook- basic healthy stuff is what I make and eat. So that means I know how to boil water and fry meat lol. Researching what ingredients are good and sticking to eating them is more important for me than making all sorts of fancy food.

I also study Japanese as a hobby. While other languages might be easily learnt using all sorts of techniques I feel like this is a language that you can totally screw up when learning resulting in tons of wasted time. That said once again ability to research comes on top. Perhaps even laziness- since that drives you to look for more efficient means to study instead of sticking to what's the standard (inefficient) procedure. I definitely got that one down. The way I have studied so far requires not just memorization 'skill' but the ability to visualize mnemonics in your mind. While my studies have been very much input-based I feel that I should start practicing output as soon as possible (like babies do). Comprehension alone won't get you far enough, and starting to reproduce the language too late will hinder you in the long run. At the end of the day it comes down to repetitively immersing yourself in the language (esp. native material) until you become familiar with the patterns.

Games are another hobby of mine. I can play everything but personally I am a fan of platformers. In the more challenging platformers the gameplay comes down to having good reaction time and learning the patterns in each level. I can't say I'm very good at them, but I'm not hopeless either.

How many years have you been learning Japanese? Language as a whole is very interesting to me, so I'm going to invest in one - the hardest part for me is deciding which one though. Not in a place in my life that will support the growth of any language other than arabic and I don't particularly want to learn that :D

Fencing!

A lot of repetition and practice to get the basic actions into muscle memory. After that, a lot of strategy comes into play for beating opponents. Sneaking your way around a defense, or surprising your opponent when they are not ready / least expect it. A lot of physical exertion while needing to keep your cool and think rationally.

sweet, armed combat is one I hadn't thought of. I'd imagine most of the key tenants of martial arts apply to fencing. How long would you say it takes to go from holding a sword to the sword being a natural extension of you, assuming maybe 15-20 minutes hours of practice/day?

I thought we just did this thread? or am I just imagining things? don't care, just curious.

aside from videogames, my main hobby is fire-dancing and glowsticking. I'm focused on poi right now, but plan to take up contact staff at some point.

I also play music and write but haven't done a lot of that lately.

oh and sex. I'm good at sex.

fire-dancing wtf elaborate

Cooking - I made a bitching teriyaki glazed salmon and grilled asparagus dinner last night. I love being able to cook restaurant style meals at home.

Running - One of my goals this year is to run a half marathon.

Do you have your own cooking setup? I do all of my magic with a frying pan, spatula, a few trusty knifes, spices & sauces. Also a george foreman when I'm lazy, but I want to level up my kitchen.

Hmm, how to enumerate my hobbies in a way that is useful for this thread...I'll have to think about it for a bit.

Although at least two of them should be obvious, though for non-obvious reasons.

DICE???????

Writing - it's a massive creative outlet that taxes your ability to view perspectives from another's point of view and apply it in a way that makes sense and maintains cohesion. Going from nothing to something is always an intriguing process for me, and I like seeing the process as it builds almost as much as the viewing of the finished product. Also very good for forcing you to do research into topics that you wouldn't have typically thought about otherwise and spreading your bases out more. Currently working on an indepth scifi-fantasy piece for my own amusement and enjoyment.

Reading - love to learn, and I personally think you gain more from reading a book than any other way. I don't necessarily think there is a particular skillset for this one, but when I get involved with a book I want it to stir up my emotions and leave me thinking at the end of it. I also agree with the 'real book' desire, ebooks tend to annoy me if I'm trying to read for a long period of time. I've got quite a library of ebooks, but most of my favourites I also have on my bookshelves and there is nothing quite like the smell of an old, well kept book library.

Kayaking - promotes the buildup of good upper body strength, and it is just all around fun. I prefer being on the water to being on land (go figure) and you'd be amazed the places a kayak can go. Unlike with biking and climbing though, you can also do nothing and still go somewhere if you feel like just lazing about. With the right gear, experience, patience, and luck, you can see things that you just wouldn't find anywhere else. I haven't done any kayaking in several years now though, ever since all my gear and trailer was stolen back in SC. After my contract expires and I get settled somewhere more permanently at least I will definitely be trying to get back into it.

Hobby Models - concentration and precision are key here. I don't build as much as I used to - I'm more of a collector of other people's work these days, everything from a 3ft model of the Bismarck to the typical anime resin / pvc statues - but I do still delve into it. When Polar Lights rereleased their D7 model kit I bought it, and I also bought a Liger Zero kit to build. I threw out most of my modeling supplies before my first deployment to save on space so I'm slowly rebuilding my stock with the intent, again, to get back into this once I have a more permanent living arrangement.

Oh, guess I sort of forgot one. Building computers. Strange, and unfortunately expensive hobby, but I love building them. I refer to them as grown-up legos. Haven't actually built any in a while, though currently about to do one for a friend. Trying not to go through my money that fast anymore - my NewEgg expenditures are waaaay too substantial for my own good, I think.

Writing is definitely a big one for me now, but I'm mostly focused on educational/epiphany based content rather than fiction. How many pages deep are you, and do you have any structure to what you're doing? I burned myself out so many times writing my first book...only 150 pages but goddamn lol, I could have written another 300-400 if I didn't decide to make it a concise guide. I'm always curious as to how other writers go about their editing+polishing+refining stages.

Ooooh kayaks. Thanks, I totally want to pick up some kind of water sport. It'll probably be surfing, but I never really thought about accessing cool little spots as a benefit of the sport. How expensive is it to get started/am i going to drown myself?

MODEL BUILDING. Good one too, absolutely gonna invest in that. I have a history of being impatient and going faster than I need to, seems like that might beat some discipline into me.


Good stuff everybody, thanks.