What's the deal with Russia and gay people now?

**Kuya** · 2013-01-25 20:42

MOSCOW, Jan 25 (Reuters) - Russia's parliament backed a draft law on Friday banning "homosexual propaganda", in what critics see as a attempt to shore up support for President Vladimir Putin in the country's largely conservative society.

Only one deputy in the State Duma lower house voted against the bill, but passions spilled over outside the chamber, where 20 people were detained after scuffles between Russian Orthodox Christians and gay activists who staged a "kiss-in" protest.

"We live in Russia, not Sodom and Gomorrah," United Russia deputy Dmitry Sablin said before the 388-1 vote in the 450-seat chamber. "Russia is a thousands-years-old country founded on its own traditional values - the protection of which is dearer to me than even oil and gas."

The law must be passed in three readings by the lower house, approved by the upper house and then signed by Putin to go into force. It would ban the promotion of gay events across Russia and impose fines of up 500,000 roubles ($16,600) on organisers.

Supporters of the law welcome moves that would allow the banning of gay rights marches and complain about television and radio programmes which they say show support for gay couples.

"The spread of gay propaganda among minors violates their rights," ruling United Russia party deputy, Elena Mizulina, who chairs the Duma's family issues committee. "Russian society is more conservative so the passing of this law is justified."

Homosexuality, punished with jail terms in the Soviet Union, was decriminalised in Russia in 1993, but much of the gay community remains underground and prejudice runs deep.

In Moscow, city authorities have repeatedly declined permission to stage gay parades and gay rights' allies have often ended in arrests and clashes with anti-gay activists. ($1 = 30.0565 Russian roubles)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=gay-voices

It just seems like all of a sudden there is this hysteria over gay people in Russia. What's got the conservatives in Russia so riled up?

It also annoys me when homophobic conservatives try to defend their shit by saying that society is conservative and so it has to be homophobic. Local conservatives sometimes say this same shit too: they say that latin culture is more conservative therefore naturally we cannot accept gay rights. It sounds like some cultural relativist shit.

**Mertron** · 2013-01-25 20:44

there are no gay people in russia; there are homosexuals but they are not allowed to be all gay about it. the punishment is seven years locked in prison with other men and there is a three-year waiting list for that

**noblemountain** · 2013-01-25 20:45

They're also considering banning English language words and they've already banned US couples from adopting Russian children.

**Kuya** · 2013-01-25 20:46

Russia is just more angry than usual lately.

**Guyverarmor** · 2013-01-25 20:48

Our GOP would feel right at home with em

**Kuya** · 2013-01-25 20:50

GOP, Russian conservatives, conservatives in the Middle East. Pretty much all the same shit.

**Guitarman** · 2013-01-25 21:14

Putin does not approve of pooper pokin'.

**Kuya** · 2013-01-25 21:16

No, he's perfectly okay with straight couples poking poopers.

**noblemountain** · 2013-01-25 21:22

Originally Posted by Kuya

No, he's perfectly okay with straight couples poking poopers.

I doubt that, sodomy is a sin and he's Eastern Orthodox.

**Guitarman** · 2013-01-25 21:22

That's true.

Jokes aside it seems like Putin is just pissed off lately. no idea what's got him up in arms.

**noblemountain** · 2013-01-25 21:24

He's well on his way to becoming their new dictator...with the mirage of public vote. Russia is tired of this whole democracy thing and is slowly returning to what they've always been.

**Qalbert** · 2013-01-25 23:38

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-01-26 00:22

He just doesn't want men Putin it in other men.

also, as for what riled them up, probably the same thing that riled up our own conservatives: themselves.

**kuronosan** · 2013-01-26 02:00

Originally Posted by noblemountain

He's well on his way to becoming their new dictator...with the mirage of public vote. Russia is tired of this whole democracy thing and is slowly returning to what they've always been.

A celebrated monarchy?

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-01-26 02:36

Our greatest geopolitical threat.

**Xantavia** · 2013-01-26 03:58

Originally Posted by Kuya

No, he's perfectly okay with straight couples poking poopers.

Never made sense to me. "Eww, 2 men having sex is icky. Girl, I want to stick it in your ass"

**Stanislaw** · 2013-01-26 04:40

"We live in Russia, not Sodom and Gomorrah," United Russia deputy Dmitry Sablin said before the 388-1 vote in the 450-seat chamber. "Russia is a thousands-years-old country founded on its own traditional values - the protection of which is dearer to me than even oil and gas."

I worry for that guy who voted against.

**guartz** · 2013-01-26 11:10

It's even scarier then that. Putin is seeking all venues to try and remain in power, and sucking the Orthodox tit is one of them. . . and gay bashing is probably the least crazy thing Orthodox church is known for. Yes, it's that fucked up.

**Kuya** · 2013-01-26 11:20

Man, abrahamic religions are super annoying.

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-01-26 11:23

But it sure does make putting that crown on your head easier when the church is OK w/it.

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