No Sick Days For You: Workplace and Business News

[Spicyryan]

We didn't have a thread that seemed appropriate. So I made one and lumped business into it so it wasn't too narrow.

Nobody wants to work anymore. Companies testing 4 day work week at 100% pay for 100% productivity aren't going back to the 5 day work week.

[6souls]

https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...nomy-Thread-II

[Spicyryan]

I guess that works. I did read the last couple pages of threads and none jumped out. Feel free to lock this of course, if you think it is appropriate.

[Mrbeansman]

Its not just the economy that would be affected in a rail strike. A huge chunk of the the power grid relies on daily shipments of coal from the railway and especially with winter coming that's not something you just shut down over worker disputes.

Rail unions aren't even the only workers getting screwed over on this shit there's plenty of low wage workers who basically aren't allowed to call in sick without repercussions. Real priority should be federal legislation guaranteeing paid sick days.

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[Spicyryan]

Its not just the economy that would be affected in a rail strike. A huge chunk of the the power grid relies on daily shipments of coal from the railway and especially with winter coming that's not something you just shut down over worker disputes.

Rail unions aren't even the only workers getting screwed over on this shit there's plenty of low wage workers who basically aren't allowed to call in sick without repercussions. Real priority should be federal legislation guaranteeing paid sick days.

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Does everything work you come back to your own interests? Lol, it is a constant theme. Everyone is getting screwed so don't mess things up over it!

Federal legation just left them in the cold. That is the point of a strike. It is the peaceful alternative and the pressure release valve over the alternative for when people get fucked over.

[Mrbeansman]

Does everything work you come back to your own interests? Lol, it is a constant theme. Everyone is getting screwed so don't mess things up over it!

Federal legation just left them in the cold. That is the point of a strike. It is the peaceful alternative and the pressure release valve over the alternative for when people get fucked over.

Letting people freeze to death is not a peaceful solution even if it isn't using violence.

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[Spicyryan]

Letting people freeze to death is not a peaceful solution even if it isn't using violence.

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"Get back to work for my benefit, and don't use the leverage you have to seek recompense after all else has failed."

[Mrbeansman]

Letting people die so you don't have come in with a cold is not some Noble cause I'm sorry your so morally bankrupt I have to explain that to you.

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[Spicyryan]

Letting people die so you don't have come in with a cold is not some Noble cause I'm sorry your so morally bankrupt I have to explain that to you.

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Woe is the plight of the rail workers. Not only must they be mistreated by private capital and their elected officials, but they must satisfy the average Joe less they suffer the blame and anger. Rather than directing the blame in all their indifference and selfishness at the private equity running the railroad and those in office in both parties. No, instead it is moral bankruptcy to stand for the workers you so depend on and so take for granted. Yah, selfish prick.

[Mrbeansman]

Why would I waste mental energy blaming entities that I know are corrupt and not expected to do the right thing.

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[Spicyryan]

Why would I waste mental energy blaming entities that I know are corrupt and not expected to do the right thing.

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Because anyone that freezes and dies—as you put it—is their fault. Not the workers for striking.

[Melena]

Bet spicy also blamed all the people in Texas who died due to last years freeze as well.

[Mrbeansman]

Because anyone that freezes and dies—as you put it—is their fault. Not the workers for striking.

No you don't get to play that card when your job is providing essential services to the people. If you don't want to come in with a cold the right thing to do is quit not endanger other people's literal lives.

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[Spicyryan]

Bet spicy also blamed all the people in Texas who died due to last years freeze as well.

What? Where am I blaming workers? Bean is the one blaming workers.
They died in Texas because of the power companies caring about their bottom line and blatantly ignored warnings of the power grid under extreme weather.

No you don't get to play that card when your job is providing essential services to the people. If you don't want to come in with a cold the right thing to do is quit not endanger other people's literal lives.

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They don't work for you, so they do get to pull that card. If they are so essentially then they can be given sick days. If they all quit then you be in the same position anyway, but wow what disregard for their situation with concern only for your own, typical.

[Mrbeansman]

but wow what disregard for their situation with concern only for your own, typical.

Amazing you with throw this at me and not them when their doing the exact same shit. Only difference is I'm saying you having to go into work with a cold or maybe getting written up is nbd and their saying you freezing to death is nbd. One is a minor inconvenience for rail workers and the other is life or death for people who rely on your services.


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[Spicyryan]

Amazing you with throw this at me and not them when their doing the exact same shit. Only difference is I'm saying you having to go into work with a cold or maybe getting written up is nbd and their saying you freezing to death is nbd. One is a minor inconvenience for rail workers and the other is life or death for people who rely on your services.


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It's not amazing because you have a track record of clearly demonstrating how your concern and argument is centralized to how it benefits yourself. You don't care about these people despite demanding they work. Saying "it's NBD to get sick, just go into work" yet accusing me of lacking morality. Despite a disregard for those seen as essential to the well-being of yourself and others. Further, saying it's NBD to get written up. Yeah, fuck their livelihoods, who cares, as long as you aren't impacted, lol.

Once again if they are so essential that it is a matter of life or death. Then they can be given sick leave or even time to go see a doctor in the first place, which they also need. Your inability to not only value these people in seemingly any way nor put yourself in their shoes is your own personal moral failing. It reflects poorly upon a society and anyone who supports regarding these workers with such disregard.

[Karbuncle]

Mmmm, yah, I can understand where Bean is coming from in regards to the timing and having empathy for those who might be effected by power outages as a result of this, and it should be easy for anyone to understand THAT side of the argument. I don't want anyone to die from literally freezing to death due to lack of power over this, and it would be fucking stupid if it came to that. However, I don't agree its the strikers fault. I firmly believe literally every inch of responsibility for any repercussions of this is on the industry, not the workers. Every single life lost, if any, as a result of this strike is laid squarely at the feet of the greedy corporate fucks withholding what should be basic benefits(Paid sick leave) from the workers for so long that its come to this. This strike could end in a single meeting, it could end before it even began.

There is no reason they should even NEED leverage to get something so simple, only in America are paid sick days considered some high-class commodity reserved for special few.(which ps not implying you're saying that)

People should not be forced to work while sick, at all, and should be given paid sick time at ANY job and not have to feel guilty for using it... but I'd also hope nobody should die over this ideal.

So yah, hope this is solved quickly TBH.

Edit: and that link is broken AF or the site can't be reached I can't even read it

[Spicyryan]

Look, a good take on it, thank you, Karbuncle.

As for resolving it. That was done by Biden and the Democratic party saying "fuck you, back to work." Then signing it. Meanwhile these railroad execs have meetings bragging to private equity about how much windfall they get over denying basic benefits.

[Karbuncle]

As for resolving it. That was done by Biden and the Democratic party saying "fuck you, back to work." Then signing it. Meanwhile these railroad execs have meetings bragging to private equity about how much windfall they get over denying basic benefits.

Thats a massive L, I remember reading about it but didn't know it was already over. Guess i'll do some catch up.

[Mrbeansman]

It's not amazing because you have a track record of clearly demonstrating how your concern and argument is centralized to how it benefits yourself. You don't care about these people despite demanding they work. Saying "it's NBD to get sick, just go into work" yet accusing me of lacking morality. Despite a disregard for those seen as essential to the well-being of yourself and others. Further, saying it's NBD to get written up. Yeah, fuck their livelihoods, who cares, as long as you aren't impacted, lol.

Once again if they are so essential that it is a matter of life or death. Then they can be given sick leave or even time to go see a doctor in the first place, which they also need. Your inability to not only value these people in seemingly any way nor put yourself in their shoes is your own personal moral failing. It reflects poorly upon a society and anyone who supports regarding these workers with such disregard.

They fully understand what is expected of them and chose to remain in the industry. This again shows that you consider no body count or amount of destroyed lives too much to achieve your political goals and thus have no right to lecture me over moral failing.

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