lolJack Thompson "Videogames caused 9/11"

[Kazen]

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/15241- ... ed_911quot

How is this guy still around? He even has a little video he made, lol "Moral Combat".

[Correction]

Added: December 27, 2006

We've gone that long ignoring Jack Thompson, we can continue ignoring him. 'Release date soon' is just needless hype. The best thing to happen would be for people to wake up in the morning, say 'Jack who?' and go on with their lives, leaving Mr. Thomson with a million dollars sunk into a movie that nobody saw or ever cared about.

[Amarok]

VIDEO GAMES DON'T CREATE PSYCHOS, VIDEO GAMES MAKE PSYCHOS MORE CREATIVE

[gandorf]

Video games also caused World war II the great depression and soon the end of the world! Video games need to be stopped!

[eckokujata]

Lol, I thought I saw Oddworld in the trailer.

[Norelco]

Heh, that would actually be a pretty interesting concept for a game...go around scoping out weaknesses of buildings and come up with creating ways to bring them down.

[Exoduso]

If they'll ban these games they'll be hurting the industry too much, and everyone will just import shit anyways..

Don't see how it'll solve their problems but good luck with it.... i'm not gonna settle for playing Katamari all day.

But lol @ blaming 9/11 on video games.. soon they'll say Bush played too much Halo and that is the real reason we attacked Iraq... he believed Saddam was the actual leader of the flood of course.

It's amazing how ignorant people are... "it's a win win situation"... except for the gamers, moron.

[Khamsin]

I wonder if there would be any significant controversy around a game like Enemy Territory or other objective-based FPS where you plant dynamite to blow stuff up, only instead of World War II themed, your goal was to infiltrate an airport, federal building, or school and plant a bomb.

I'm sure somebody would get their panties in a bunch over it, but would that create any significant drama that'd affect it's place on the shelves?

[Turambar]

How is this guy still around? He even has a little video he made, lol "Moral Combat".

Moral Kombat is actually a full-length documentary produced by Spencer Halpin, brother of ESA chairman Hal Halpin. Reports from those who have seen it are that it's actually much more balanced than that trailer indicates.

Also, He Who Must Not Be Named is actually in the middle of disbarment proceedings. His trial started last week, and picked up today. http://www.gamepolitics.com has more in-depth information.

[Melena]

yea, the florida bar association was only expecting a week for the trial, but after jack spent so much time cross examining witnesses, he only got to start his defense on friday. According to GP though, with his limited talk with Jack, he's bragging about how he's winning and going to make this trial go on for weeks. Soon it will be all over though and millions of gamers will rejoice knowing he can no longer make frivilous suits and will only be seen on late night politic shows that no one gives a shit about.

[BRP]

Did he actually say videogames caused 9/11? Or is this just more hate mongering?(Hmmm, Jack Thompson does the same thing, somewhat hypocritical?)

There is a great amount of difference between stating "Flight simulators were used to train the culprits of 9/11" and "Videogames motivated them to commit the act". I'd appreciate an actual quote of him saying "The terrorists committed 9/11 thanks to videogames".

I'm no fan of Jack Thompson and that's because he uses propaganda(sometimes false) to fuel his point of view. It's even more despicable when people on "my side" do the same thing.

[Turambar]

Did he actually say videogames caused 9/11? Or is this just more hate mongering?(Hmmm, Jack Thompson does the same thing, somewhat hypocritical?)

There is a great amount of difference between stating "Flight simulators were used to train the culprits of 9/11" and "Videogames motivated them to commit the act". I'd appreciate an actual quote of him saying "The terrorists committed 9/11 thanks to videogames".

I'm no fan of Jack Thompson and that's because he uses propaganda(sometimes false) to fuel his point of view. It's even more despicable when people on "my side" do the same thing.

He's never specifically said that videogames caused 9/11 but I'm certain he believes they did. He's one of those radical religious nuts that believes videogames and Howard Stern are leading the country into a moral chasm, and likely believes that 9/11 was a sign that God has turned his back on the US as a result.

[Exoduso]

He hinted at the fact that videogames are the main reason that the 9/11 terrorists were able to pilot the planes, and that without those flight simulators they wouldn't have had access to it.

PS: GTA killed Princess Diana.

[BRP]

He's never specifically said that videogames caused 9/11 but I'm certain he believes they did.

Facts? Reason? Ignorance is delicious.

Without any direct quotes there isn't a single respectable word of slander against Jack Thompson in this thread. Let me change that:

Jack Thompson isn't some wacko, well, I can't say for sure, but he certainly isn't for the reason everyone think he is. I guess there isn't much I can say in defense of his rude antics. He is part of a movement that wishes to keep M-rated games away from children. Sure you can be against this, but this isn't "crazy". We follow the same rules for movies. Personally, I don't see a reason to not limit children from purchasing such games. There already "rules" against it, they aren't being enforced. There does not be a need for to whip out useless scientific reports or blame incidents on them. This is a matter of preventing children from purchasing M-rated games. If a parent buys the game for them, so be it, it is now on their shoulders, not the industry.

Jack Thompson lacks an open-mind and occasionally attacks games at an artistic level(see: Grand Theft Auto, Manhunt). This does very little for his true argument which would prevent children from buying M-rated games in the same way they can not purchase alcohol or cigarettes. It just makes his opinion aggressive and hopeless in an attempt to change minds. Most importantly, he hate mongers. He often puts too much into the idea that games inspire crimes, which alone isn't a terrible assumption, but he has no solid evidence. Despite this, he continues to use it without giving any opportunity to others to disagree with him. He links school shootings to this idea as if it's fact and that is where his hate mongering comes from.

Stop putting words in the mouth of your opponents, you are basically at his level.

[Turambar]

He's never specifically said that videogames caused 9/11 but I'm certain he believes they did.

Facts? Reason? Ignorance is delicious.

Without any direct quotes there isn't a single respectable word of slander against Jack Thompson in this thread. Let me change that:

Jack Thompson isn't some wacko, well, I can't say for sure, but he certainly isn't for the reason everyone think he is. I guess there isn't much I can say in defense of his rude antics. He is part of a movement that wishes to keep M-rated games away from children. Sure you can be against this, but this isn't "crazy". We follow the same rules for movies. Personally, I don't see a reason to not limit children from purchasing such games. There already "rules" against it, they aren't being enforced. There does not be a need for to whip out useless scientific reports or blame incidents on them. This is a matter of preventing children from purchasing M-rated games. If a parent buys the game for them, so be it, it is now on their shoulders, not the industry.

Jack Thompson lacks an open-mind and occasionally attacks games at an artistic level(see: Grand Theft Auto, Manhunt). This does very little for his true argument which would prevent children from buying M-rated games in the same way they can not purchase alcohol or cigarettes. It just makes his opinion aggressive and hopeless in an attempt to change minds. Most importantly, he hate mongers. He often puts too much into the idea that games inspire crimes, which alone isn't a terrible assumption, but he has no solid evidence. Despite this, he continues to use it without giving any opportunity to others to disagree with him. He links school shootings to this idea as if it's fact and that is where his hate mongering comes from.

Stop putting words in the mouth of your opponents, you are basically at his level.

Just a couple points:
The FCC issued a report a few months ago which showed that rating enforcement of game sales is significantly better than in the movie industry. Kids under 17 were only able to buy M-rated games about 42% of the time, compared to being able to get into R-rated movies about 71% of the time. In stores it's even worse, as there's little, if any, enforcment of ratings. Kids can nearly always buy an R-rated or unrated DVD.

Nobody has a problem with preventing kids from playing M-rated games, but despite what he says, that's not what Jack wants. His actions are proof enough of that. Several times, he's tried to have the courts in Florida declare specific games to be public nuisances, which would bar them from sale to anyone of any age.

As far as my supposition on his beliefs, I'll just leave you with these quotes:

The Bible doesn't promote killing innocent people, Grand Theft Auto does. Islam does. Islam promotes the killing of innocent people. The Quran requires the infidel, whether Jew or Christian, to be killed. ... That's a core essence of the religion. ... Muhammad was a pirate who killed infidels and who advocated the killing of infidels. Not a nice guy. Osama bin Laden is in keeping with his fine tradition.

GTA is a Sony/Take-Two game. It was made by Take-Two exclusively for Sony's Playstation 2. Sony has led the planet in the distribution of mainstream porn. I don't have time to document it for you. As for the offensiveness of the Pearl Harbor comment, it's accurate and it's needed. The Japanese have a contempt for our culture which is patent. There [sic] dumping of garbage into our culture is a slow motion version of Pearl Harbor."

I have made a choice, and it is a choice for Jesus Jesus said: "If any of you should cause any of these little ones to stumble, then it would be better for you that a millstone be tied around your neck and that you be cast into the sea." Rockstar is marketing adult murder simulators to kids. You are an apologist for that molestation. You're the one who needs to square his actions with the Bible, not I. I'm the one winning cases in the Bible Belt, not you. Please go to Hell more quietly. Thanks. Jack Thompson

[Charla]

Muhammad was a pirate

[Andarvi]

Could you imagine if he actually won? I cant imagine an administration being worse than this one but he would at least come close.

edit: So according to his way of thinking should we ban cigarettes and alcohol as well? Because underage kids use those all the time as well and result in exponentially more deaths than video-game inspired violence, even if he were attributing the 9/11 casualties and those over in Iraq.

[Faris]

Muhammad was a pirate

If you had a product, i'd boycott it.

[BRP]

Unfortunately, none of that is saying "Videogames caused 9/11". He's your typical overzealous Christan advocate who attacks Islam. If he says things that would discredit him, then there is no need to put words in his mouth. That's something he does.

[Charismatic]

Muhammad was a pirate

I expected that, but I clicked anyway.