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    Firefox...

    Lately, Firefox has been rather upsetting more than useful to me. Pages would load incredibly slow for example. Also, when I opened a second tag, I couldn't view my first tab. It would freeze the entire browser until the 2nd page was done loading entirely (so say I'm watching a youtube video and I open a new tab a click a slow website like KI and then click the first tab again. The video would just sit in the same spot no sound or visual until the 2nd tab was 100% done loading)

    So now that everything is taking such a long time to load and I can't really view multiple shit at once, now it starts to crash pretty often. My first thought was a virus, but this would only happen to Firefox, not IE.

    My first reaction was to remove Firefox and then download a new one, but once I did this, I was having the same results.

    This brings me to my point. I've been getting d/c'd from my pc for the past week. It would never be long at all, but enough to boot me from FFXI. My first thought here was that maybe I had a pretty shitty connection (Which I do because I'm leeching wirelessly), but what I couldn't understand is why I was d/c'ing multiple times in a row every 15 minutes, but when I was afk (sleeping) could leave FFXI up for hours and hours and not get d/c'd.

    After all this, I stopped playing FFXI for a bit cause I was pissed off at getting d/c'd every 15 minutes. At this point I thought "Maybe I have many programs open" (IM, Multi-tab Firefox, FFXI). So here I am w/o FFXI up and browsing Firefox. Then it crashes and my instant messenger d/c's at this time. So I try this a few more times. I open multiple tabs on Firefox and cause it to overload/crash and here it is my messenger d/c's again. At this point, I leave Firefox alone and browse with IE and then open FFXI and I haven't d/c'd since

    Conclusion: Firefox has been causing my PC to temp disconnect from its wireless host as it crashes.

    Query: WTF is up with my Firefox?

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    Re: Firefox...

    OS?
    Wireless or wired?
    network or 1 macine?
    internet connection type?

    Sounds like either your router or modem is messing up.

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    Re: Firefox...

    USB wireless card and also built in wireless; both with the same result.
    I thought it was the internet connection at first as well, but as I've already said, it would only go out as Firefox crashed. Other than that it would always stay up. I just retested it again before replying and I opened Firefox and shortly after it crashed and my game and instant messenger d/c'd.

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    I dunno I concluded your cheap. PROBLEM #1

    The problem is basically what I said. You are stealing your internet signal. First internet signals aren't the strongest I have seen. In fact I tried to run wireless for my laptop to the router in the other room and it was slow. PROBLEM #2

    Now while on the subject of internet stealing. Do you have any idea who's signal your are stealing and what they are actually doing? Do you have any idea if you stealing their bandwidth is causing their ISP provider to lower the amount of bandwidth they can use? Are they gaming, uploading downloading??? PROBLEM #3

    Your suffering from primetime outages. What makes it worse is your stealing the signal. So if your internet seeder is running a few systems at 768kbs, then they are taxing it, now You stealing a portion of it is taxing it even more. Add in the hiccups of primetime use and the issues with wireless internet. Thats why your losing internet during intervals during the evening and not during the graveyard hours cause there is less ISP use across the board. PROBLEM #4

    Firefox has a tool that clears private data such as history, cookies, cache. Clearing this will help easy the surfing load. PROBLEM #5

    Having multiple windows up is taxing on the system. Can your system support such workload PROBLEM #6.

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    Re: Firefox...

    Well I do have my own internet, its just been out for 2 weeks (Uncle didn't feel like paying the bill). And with that connection, all the problems except for d/c'ing my internet remained. Like it being slow and crashing and shit and yea I've cleared memory/history, run spyware sweepers, and virus scanners, ect ect, but the shit still wants to be an asshole to me. Everything loads up nice and fine and works perfect with IE though. Only problem is I don't want to go on anything related to ffxi with IE

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    What are your system specs? How full is your HD. Did you update any software or Windows prior to it turning crappy? Whats your OS? Maybe one of these is messing with your system.

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    Re: Firefox...

    "Intel(R)
    Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80 GHz
    2.79 GHZ, 512 MB of RAM"

    Used space is about 50/65 gigs (HDD is partitioned into 2, the other partition is just windows shit). And no, no recent updates or anything I can remember but its been like this with fire fox for a long time now. Only that it started d/c'in me when it crashed that it crossed the line lol.

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    format your pc man. clean install is good sometimes, and get more ram.

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    512mb ram is kinda low especially if your system is running Vista. IF your running Xp then there is no reason why you can't up it to 1-2gig. If its a Vista machine then you need 2gigs min to run it it seems. Also it sounds like you don't update drivers. You might want to look at your wireless card and see if it has any updates for it. It could be a problem with the wireless card being bad or not configured to your system.

    Like I stated I am not a fan of wireless access. You seem to be experiencing the same kinda hiccups that I was when I tried to run my second computer wireless. The only way to test this is to wait til your uncle pays the bill and then you directly connect to the modem with a ethernet cable and see if that works better.

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    Re: Firefox...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rags
    512mb ram is kinda low especially if your system is running Vista. IF your running Xp then there is no reason why you can't up it to 1-2gig. If its a Vista machine then you need 2gigs min to run it it seems. Also it sounds like you don't update drivers. You might want to look at your wireless card and see if it has any updates for it. It could be a problem with the wireless card being bad or not configured to your system.

    Like I stated I am not a fan of wireless access. You seem to be experiencing the same kinda hiccups that I was when I tried to run my second computer wireless. The only way to test this is to wait til your uncle pays the bill and then you directly connect to the modem with a ethernet cable and see if that works better.
    Using XP and not Vista. Also its a laptop not a desktop if that helps any.

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    Re: Firefox...

    Other then mentioning to see if drivers need to be updated or make sure you set up your wireless right. I have no other suggestions since I rarely use a laptop. My understanding was you were on a Pc as most of my info would help you out there.

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    Well, I would say try disabling Wireless Zero but I think you might be using that to connect to the other network. If you aren't then you can try that I guess... I'm not learned in laptops either. :/

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    Re: Firefox...

    I just had this happen to me for the first time. It was Quicktime that jammed me me up, I clicked an .avi file that went to launch in a separate window, the player loaded up and then everything just jammed up. Gonna see if I can reproduce it. You mentioned youtube, can you remember if you are generally viewing media when your Firefox goes crazy?

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    Well that was just an example. I'm on youtube a lot but when not, it was happening with KI, this site, GameFaqs ect ect

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    Keep your taskmanager open while using Firefox and see how the CPU/RAM usage fairs.

    Majority of my issues with Firefox were typically the fault of plugins (hey there Quicktime & Acrobat reader!) and some extension conflicts, although I barely have any extensions installed currently as a fair amount of authors have yet to update their works to run with Firefox3 b3. <.<

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    Re: Firefox...

    I highly recommend Process Explorer in place of task manager for monitoring your processes. It's written by this Mark Russinovich guy that used to have a sysinternals site/blog that I visited a lot, and last year got hired by Microsoft. (Upset a lot people but, meh, can't blame him.) Actually I'm pretty sure he's the guy who discovered the Sony rootkit if you remember that. Anyway you can still download his process explorer and several other awesome utils for XP, here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi ... 96653.aspx

    I realize now this sounds like an advertisement, but they are free, I'm just trying to help out, some of his other utils are super useful.

    Edit: Theres also a TcpView that might be useful in your internet connection issue. It shows your open and listening connections in realtime.

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    Re: Firefox...

    Hey guys. I think the problem has been fixed.
    I had a little thingie called "rlls.dll" in my system 32.
    I googled it and found out how to remove it and then I rebooted my pc and its only been a couple hours, but I can really notice a difference already. My computer is no longer going slow as shit and Firefox hasn't lagged or crashed yet.

    The "rlls.dll" has also been known to interfere with internet upon removal (If you just regular delete it, say goodbye to interweb). So I guess something with that was linking my d/cs to firefox.