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  1. #1
    Hydra
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    Relic get a boost in power?

    It all started on Monday right after the update. We decided to try out Dynamis-Xarcabard to see if the drop rates were any better. In the end we only managed to get 1 AF so we were all pretty disappointed. Besides that, I did notice my shield was blocking for more damage. At first I didn't think from it then I realized how much damage I was actually blocking and it was definitely not normal....

    Here is from the Dynamis-Xarcabard on the Duke Gomery (monk mob) and Count Raum (thf mob) and few random regular mobs as well.

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...DukeGomery.png

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pdate/Monk.png

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pdate/Ruam.png


    The next day, we finally decided to try Jailer of Love. Jailer of Love takes alot less time than it did before so everyone was happy, but AV kicked our ass in the end. What caught my attention was that AV hit me for 8 dmg (shield blocking)....

    Now I decided to do more testing in sky.... I remember first time I got my aegis, I was getting hit for maybe around 30-40 dmg on a VT mob... so check out these next few screen shots...

    With no Phalanx II I was getting hit for average of 5-9 damage...
    With Phalanx II (1 lvl) - I get hit for 0 dmg 100% of the time...
    Even on MG we did I would get hit for 0 dmg with phalanx II... even if it was a critical hit.. still 0 dmg.

    Has anyone notice any changes in relic? Perhaps the weapons are more powerful? Maybe a bug? Or this was part of update? Any feedback from other relic users would be great...


    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...te/skytest.png

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../phalanxII.png

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...otherglobe.png

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pdate/MG01.png

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    I noticed it too, on AV, who hits me on nonblock for 350~, hits me for 20 on block, whereas Khimaira who hits me for ~300 nonblock, hits me for 80 on block. I thought I was just crazy or something, dunno. Excalibur seems to be the same in both damage and proc frequency (from loleyeballing it)

    edit; fixed 0 to 20 <_<, also: advanced

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    Nidhogg
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    Well, wasn't SE promising to buff up relics so they wouldn't be overshadowed by the new ones anyways? Maybe they snuck it in without telling us.

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    Ridill
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    Well a person on KI with Apoc is reporting that Catastrophe haste duration was lowered from 30 > 20 seconds with 100 tp. Might just be that relics got borked in the update. Hell, if aegis got changed for the better keep it quiet, before they "fix" it.

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    Sea Torques
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    Worth a decision tho .. I gotta ask my friend who has amano do some testing soon.

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    Going to take a size 3 shield to some VT/IT mobs and see if they changed the damage reduced overall or just for Aegis

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    Sea Torques
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    Noticed it on my Aegis too but I thought I was just going crazy.

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    Cerberus
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    I didn't think of them boosting relics till I read this thread because I noticed my Aegis reducing a lot more damage also.

    I was fighting DC mobs where I was taking about 60-80 damaged and when I blocked, I would take ~5 damage only

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    Testing on Puks with a Sentinel Shield and Aegis, 80-90 nonblock and 30 on block with Sentinel Shield and with Aegis its a constant 3 damage. I have no basis for comparison since I've never EXPed on Puks with a Sentinel Shield before, just throwing it out there

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    I noticed this on Amano while running towards dyna-bcd, and then all through the bcd run. Needs proper testing, but I can't remember seeing such consistently high numbers on northlands mobs.

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    I didn't have time to play much yesterday but I noticed 2 things:

    - Aftermath lasted 22-23 seconds only with 100 TP.
    - It lasted 1 minute after using Sekkanokki from 300 TP (i.e after using only 100 of the 300 TP).

    I didn't notice a boost in Kaiten damage while I was in Dynamis-Beaucedine.

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    RIDE ARMOR
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    I've been hoping that SE does bosst Z.relics if it did happen I have not noticed it at all, could be a glitch or maybe I have not done enough testing with Spharai using FH (Final Heaven)....which we all know is broke to the max along with a few other Z.relic WS's out there.

    So any confirmations about boosting of Z.relics would be nice, have not noticed anything here. That new Icon for aftermath effect was the only thing that I noticed.

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    RIDE ARMOR
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    3 proc seems to activate more but need further testing.

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    effect is canceled if weapon is switched out. Catastrophe -> Kraken Club zerg nerfed

  16. #16
    terraflarex
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    I'll do some testing on Yoichi and Amano tonight and see if DMG has seemed to increase at all.

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    Man fuck work... especially today since I have to work a 12 hr and this damn thread pops up... Have the day off tomorrow though! I'm telling you right now, if thats true about Aegis.....



    I watch my damage received religiously, Ill be able the tell if their is a difference the moment I log in tonight. This is going to be a long ass day...

  18. #18
    terraflarex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki View Post
    Man fuck work... especially today since I have to work a 12 hr and this damn thread pops up... Have the day off tomorrow though! I'm telling you right now, if thats true about Aegis.....



    I watch my damage received religiously, Ill be able the tell if their is a difference the moment I log in tonight. This is going to be a long ass day...
    That's amazing.

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    i noticed an high reduction of damage taken when blocking,1-2-3 dmges from kind every VT,IT mobs,blocking for 60-80 dmg khimaira...more testing as long as more hnm popping

  20. #20
    Hydra
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    Throw in Phalanx II and watch it even go down..... This was tested with Protect IV/Shell IV and Tav. Taco and lvl 1 Phalanx II I got hit for 0 dmg 100% of the time with shield block against Aura Statues and Mother Globe...

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