HMP set Vs Yigit set

[Sta]

How much +HMP do i need to beat the HMP (+refresh) from the Yigit set?

[Kriz]

My understanding is 1mp/tic refresh ends up being somewhere along the lines of 3.33hMP.

So you'd need to surpass that, which isn't that hard to do (Goliard, Genie Gages, etc.)

[Natara]

The first tick takes 20 sec to kick in (roughly ~6.66 hmp) then all other ticks takes 10 sec which is 3.33 hmp like Kriz mentioned.

[Sta]

Ah i'm @+28 hmp atm.
I have a macro that switches to Sorc body when i start to rest for the 1st 18 seconds then switches to errent after that.

[Eticket]

3.3 hmp from refresh puts the whole set at 11.3

Goliard Chapeau = 2
Errant/Mahatma body = 5/6
Oracle's Gloves = 2
Oracle's Braconi = 2
Goliard Clogs = 3

So that's +14 or +16 hmp... However, not everyone has easy access or success with Nyzul or ZNMs. If you don't do those activities often then you may as well stick with Yigit.

[Natara]

Ah i'm @+28 hmp atm.
I have a macro that switches to Sorc body when i start to rest for the 1st 18 seconds then switches to errent after that.

Yeah that's the ideal. I don't even swap. I just started with Errant/Blm af 1+1/ Rmd af1+1, but I have some other random HNM gears on other slots as well.

[Ophannus]

For RDM I use
Dark Staff(10)
Mirror Tiara(3)
Beak+1 necklace(don't have that salvage piece) (2)
Releaxing Earring(2)
Antivenom Earrin(1)
AF+1 body(5)
Genie Guages(1)
Invigorating Cape(1)
Duelist Belt(4)
Baron's Slops(1)
Goliard Feet(3)

[zantes]

Errant/Mahatma body = 5/7

Mahatma is 6 hMP.

[Sta]

3.3 hmp from refresh puts the whole set at 11.3

Goliard Chapeau = 2
Errant/Mahatma body = 5/7
Oracle's Gloves = 2
Oracle's Braconi = 2
Goliard Clogs = 3

So that's +14 or +16 hmp... However, not everyone has easy access or success with Nyzul or ZNMs. If you don't do those activities often then you may as well stick with Yigit.

Mahatma body is +6.
All my HMP gear is AH (not expencive) aside from Oracles gloves and feet they bring +2 hmp to the table. I could also blow 200k on Rapture Earring for another +1 HMP.
All other slots (Rings, ammo, Strap) with MP items

[Natara]

For RDM I use
Dark Staff(10)
Mirror Tiara(3)
Beak+1 necklace(don't have that salvage piece) (2)
Releaxing Earring(2)
Antivenom Earrin(1)
AF+1 body(5)
Genie Guages(1)
Invigorating Cape(1)
Duelist Belt(4)
Baron's Slops(1)
Goliard Feet(3)

If you have afv2, use afv2 though for RDM. 1 Refresh = 3.33 hmp which beat mirror or any HMP head piece.

[Bladewind]

For RDM I use
Dark Staff(10)
Mirror Tiara(3)
Beak+1 necklace(don't have that salvage piece) (2)
Releaxing Earring(2)
Antivenom Earrin(1)
AF+1 body(5)
Genie Guages(1)
Invigorating Cape(1)
Duelist Belt(4)
Baron's Slops(1)
Goliard Feet(3)

You only need to consider Head/Body/Hands/Legs/Feet for this comparison.

[Eticket]

Mahatma is 6 hMP.

Mahatma body is +6.
All my HMP gear is AH (not expencive) aside from Oracles gloves and feet they bring +2 hmp to the table. I could also blow 200k on Rapture Earring for another +1 HMP.
All other slots (Rings, ammo, Strap) with MP items

yeah... 6... I'm retarded.

I was leaving out any pieces that weren't in the 'main' slots that you could get with yigit pieces.

[Sta]

To sum it up:

You must match or beat 11(.33)hMP using ONLY Head, Body, Hands, Feet, Legs.

AH:
[Head] Mirror Tiara (+3)
[Body] Mahatma Houppelande (+6)
[Hands] Genie Gages (+1)
[Feet] Arborist Nails (+1)
[Legs] Baron's Slops +1 (+1)

total: +12
This will beat Yigit set. You can use Errent body and you will be down very slightly.

Fuck yigit

[zantes]

yeah... 6... I'm retarded.

I was leaving out any pieces that weren't in the 'main' slots that you could get with yigit pieces.

I'm currently at +33 hMP myself for both WHM and BLM. Unfortunately every upgrade now is either really expensive or a very rare drop.

[Sta]

I'm curious, what is your hMP gear for BLM? i'm guessing Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's

Edit: I just worked out +38 is the HMP cap for BLM... w/o food, roles or any other buffs.

[Xanthu]

Man, Baron Slops are the only other Legs with hmp on 'em, arn't they? I'm trying to find ways to perma-store Yigit for BLM and WHM (SCH still needs it plenty though)

Wait...BLM needs shoes anyway. Or I could fulltime Goliard.....nah

[Omniyoji]

I'm curious, what is your hMP gear for BLM? i'm guessing Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's

Edit: I just worked out +38 is the HMP cap for BLM... w/o food, roles or any other buffs.

+38? How'd you get that? I thought it was always +35, +37 if you use rod/shield combo.

for BLM I use:

Pluto's Staff (+10)
Yigit Turban (+1)
Beak Necklace+1 (+2)
Warlock's Earring (+1)
Antivenom Earring (+1)
Errant Houppelande (+5)
Invigorating Cape (+1)
Qiqirn Sash+1 (+3)
Baron's Slops (+1)
Avocat Pigaches (+3)

Total +28

I still need a lot of upgrades...

Man, Baron Slops are the only other Legs with hmp on 'em, arn't they? I'm trying to find ways to perma-store Yigit for BLM and WHM (SCH still needs it plenty though)

You could use Oracle's Braconi. That's +2 also like Yigit

[zantes]

I'm curious, what is your hMP gear for BLM? i'm guessing Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's, Oracle's

Edit: I just worked out +38 is the HMP cap for BLM... w/o food, roles or any other buffs.

Here's what I use for BLM hMP:
Pluto's (+10)
Golliard Chapeau (+2)
Grandiose Chain (+2)
Relaxing Earring (+2)
Antivenom Earring (+1)
Errant Houppelande (+5) (I use Healer's Briault +1 for WHM)
Oracle's Gloves (+2)
Invigorating Cape (+1)
Qiqirn Sash +1 (+3)
Yigit Seraweels (+2)
Goliard Clogs (+3)

Possible upgrades are:
Mahatma Houppelande/Oracle's Robe (+1 more)
Star Rings (+1 each)
Gnole Torque/Phi Necklace (+1 mode)
Reserve Captain's Mace + Legion Scutum (+2 more)

So BLM can get +39 total hMP. WHM can get +40 with Mirror Tiara.

[Omniyoji]

Oh I see you guys added the hmp rings. Those don't really count since they're too expensive and most mages wouldn't consider wasting 2 inventory slots for them.

oh and btw it's Pluto's not Apollo's ^^;

[zantes]

Oh I see you guys added the hmp rings. Those don't really count since they're too expensive and most mages wouldn't consider wasting 2 inventory slots for them.

oh and btw it's Pluto's not Apollo's ^^;

Well, we're talking about potential hMP so I included them. You're right that most people wouldn't consider getting them, but I'd love to have them for WHM (possibly the best rings WHM can get).