Another Nyzul Jip

[Ddboner]

Just want to throw my hand into the whole "Nyzul loot system is horrible cry" Killed Khimara last night with about 15 seconds left.. (bad luck with kill all/avoid gear agro floor and a kill 5 psycheflayer floor)

Askar body dropped, but since one member was dead and couldnt get raised up in time we timed out and lost the loot.

Considering we are probably 2/20 (im currently upping my thf so our static can bring a TH3) on boss floors at this point it sucks hard that 1 out of 2 of the drops got wasted....

Hope SE gets a clue that this is pretty unfair at some point...

/whine off

[homerun]

If you would have gotten them to homepoint you could have had your drop.

[Ddboner]

Good point, unfortunately the dead one was the one looking for askar body, but still a valid point.

I just think it seems a little ridiculous to involve the loot pool off boss in the 30 minute timer

[Tsuko_Asura]

Doesn't take 15 seconds to use fireflies.

[Karbuncle]

I think Killing the boss should grant a 2 Minute Extension, Not enough time to complete another floor (maybe), and its just about enough time to raise everyone and lot the item if needed.

It wouldn't be to hard to impliment and i see no reason why people should have to spam their inv screen to get the hell out so the dead guy can get his drop.

He should learn2tank anyway!

[Hioki]

You can have them d/c the last 10 seconds keeps them in the area after everyone is kicked out and auto drops to them assuming their inv doesn't fill up with random stuff.

[Sanjiyan]

No reraise? Or did he reraise and die.
Temp items for boss runs always indicated.

[Ddboner]

We literally had about 40 seconds to kill khim, we just ran in and zerged, khim hit the floor with probably 15 seconds left.. pretty much enough time to look at the item and time out, i really think we would have needed to warp the instant his hp was 0 to make it work.

We usually just buy body boosts..another good point on reraise item, I'll prolly have my ppl start getting those too..

[Sanjiyan]

Body boost, dusty reraise, and fanatics is my routine as a MNK for boss runs.
My nyzul static mages gets the MP boost, dusty elix, reraise, and possibly juices.

[Vyerz]

if you have a rdm healer you need to be heavy on the meds, usually 4 DD's/nin a whm and a brd can kill all floor bosses no problem with almost 0 meds. Additionally, more important than a body boost is Dusty wing as cerb pops like 99.999999% of the time (from what I hear, we've done Nyzul for 8 months and only seen khim 3 times and Hydra twice)

[Midnightjade]

I think dusty RR only lasts 10min like a lot of those items, so don't pop it at the start of the run.

Our melee get body boost/fanatic/champ, and the rdm+brd backline gets cleric/ether (+manaboost in my case since mp is all coming from sub and gear).

[edit - figured I should add that our Nyzul group added a TH4 THF a few months in, and when we did so our droprate got much much better. These days I don't think we'd even do the bosses without a THF - it really does make that much of a difference]

[Hyan]

Just suck it up, geez.

[Teorem]

You could have, easily and well within 15 seconds, had everyone leave the party without disbanding. The KO'd recipient would have received the Askar Koraizin once he was the only one left in the party.

Only Dynamis has a global treasure pool necessitating things like homepointing to ensure last-second distribution.

[MillionDollarMan]

When there's under a minute in anything left you should just set quartermaster so at least somebody gets the item. I don't think you should get a time extension for killing the boss. I like the idea of running out of time. You just have to be fast.

[Alistaire]

Hope SE gets a clue that this is pretty unfair at some point...

SE reading this is going to say "OMG we didn't know this could happen!?" ?

Not really.

[Kaslo]

You could have, easily and well within 15 seconds, had everyone leave the party without disbanding. The KO'd recipient would have received the Askar Koraizin once he was the only one left in the party.

Only Dynamis has a global treasure pool necessitating things like homepointing to ensure last-second distribution.

^This

[Rama]

/pcmd leave


Learn to use that command quickly when you need nothing from the lootpool. Also, have a competent person who always has RR as PT leader. They will kick corpses who don't need the item before leaving party themselves.

[Eldelphia]

We haven't lost anything so far, have had peeps homepoint once (ty for my hands firi and doy ) but I didn't realise the treasure from Nyzul was party only. That will prolly save some xp and heartache at some point... (we're saved at floor 80)

[dhearic]

Basic rule for all timed instance as nyzul : give lead to a mage with RR. So you can kick the dead people from the pt if dead and you are short on time. It works the same way in salvage.

[mdkuser]

you don't have to be a mage to have reraise. Honestly if your static members don't all have 1 or 2 reraise items and meds, and especially the one guy that wanted the drop, you don't have right to complain, especially on Boss floors.