Suzaku Solo

[Crisco]

I would have made a post in Randomer Question Thread but I didn't think I'd reach the appropriate ppl for the question, so I apologize in advance for near waste of the topic.

Yeah, this solo is old news but I have one question. For those that have more experience with this solo/low-man/etc, have any of you tried using gravity as an effective solution to Chainspell? I know Avesta waited out Suzaku's MP pool, but I'd rather not do the same depending how long that would take. My only concerns with gravity are getting out of range before too much dmg has been done and duration. I would attempt to be camped at a porter so I had the entire length of the area to run it out so I don't have to double back before CS wears off.

So if you did the solo or know someone that solo'd, did they wait out mp or use gravity?

[rog]

no. landing it is a crapshoot. if you got lucky and landed it, you'd most likely survive, (but not definitely), and if you don't there's no chance in hell of surviving.

just run it out of mp, it only takes 40~50 mins or so anyway.

[[Cookies]]

You'd be best off playing it safe and letting it run out of mp first. Just keep it poisoned till it stops casting and the rest of the fight is fairly simple. If gravity was resisted, you'd be screwed.

The only other way I can see you surviving Chainspell would be to counter it with your own Chainspell and spam Stoneskin in MDB/MDT- gear.

[Virtuous Saint]

Hermes'

[Crisco]

Hermes'

Without gravity I would still have to double back, and likely get raped. And I'm pretty sure Suzaku has some form of enhanced movement.

Anyway, I guess I'll go the route of draining MP. Thanks for the info.

[Kaeko]

How much fire resist does it take to eat Suzaku spells? I saw that Avesta used a fire resist set to eat Firaga IIIs at the start to drain the MP faster, so couldn't you just eat the chainspell casts with a good enough fire resist set?

This is especially possible now with the addition of FoV Augments. The stats may suck, but the elemental stats are very good (up to +10 to +12). You can make 1 nasty fire resist set in the +180s with that. With a 300 Enhancing Barfire that's ~270 fire resist without carol.

[rog]

270 fire resist would most likely be enough to fully resist. the first time i soloed it i got a decent amount of resists (somewhere in the range of 1/3~1/2 didn't break stoneskin) with only like 180, or 200 fire resist or so.

And I'm pretty sure Suzaku has some form of enhanced movement.

yup. i think it might be +30% or so? not sure.

[[Cookies]]

I saw that Avesta used a fire resist set to eat Firaga IIIs at the start to drain the MP faster, so couldn't you just eat the chainspell casts with a good enough fire resist set?

Are you sure it was a Fire Resist set? It's been a long time since I watched the video but I could have sworn it was an MDB/MDT- set (kebbie, coral mail, etc).

[drwaffles]

How much fire resist does it take to eat Suzaku spells? I saw that Avesta used a fire resist set to eat Firaga IIIs at the start to drain the MP faster, so couldn't you just eat the chainspell casts with a good enough fire resist set?

This is especially possible now with the addition of FoV Augments. The stats may suck, but the elemental stats are very good (up to +10 to +12). You can make 1 nasty fire resist set in the +180s with that. With a 300 Enhancing Barfire that's ~270 fire resist without carol.

It was a magic damage reduction setup - Coral armor set (probably +1), Kebbie, etc., as Cookies said. I believe a solo RDM can't hit high enough resistance numbers to consistently resist Suzaku's Firaga III, so it's much safer to stack up on MDT-%. This is true of other RDM solos where you'll be eating some -gas, like Haku, Big Bomb or Zekka.

[Charismatic]

Not really worth the risk to try it but can't help but wonder if enspell2 + death blossom would make it possible to just silence him through chainspell.

[drwaffles]

It might, but since you can't predict when he's going to use Chainspell you wouldn't be able to swap out your weapon after you'd built TP until after he'd used it. You can't afford to not use Terra's or Kebbie at any point in this fight, I think (not least because you have to land Slow II consistently).

[Killkenny]

I am sure with a 410 Stoneskin and a very good MDT/MDB set you would be able to counter his chainspell safely with your own. The major problem is that he can 2hr at any time and if you get unlucky you could be facing it unprepared without enough mp to survive.

The fire resist is an interesting idea though, I can't think of many mobs in the game that require the same level of resist that tiamat does. A lot of other instances were people commonly use resist sets, sarameya and ouryu are the first that I thought of, require much less and I have noticed even blms in standard int/skill nuking gear tend to resist sky gods fairly well.

[rog]

not least because you have to land Slow II consistently.

slow isn't needed, and you won't land it consistantly even if you want it. unfortunately you have to reallyrely on stoneskin/blink/def gear when utsu timers are down, because they will be a lot.

[[Cookies]]

slow isn't needed, and you won't land it consistantly even if you want it.

What. >____> Slow IS needed and lands consistantly (assuming you're well geared).

[Belgaer]

Better off trying to stick Bind than Gravity on Suzaku. It's a lot easier to land and helps you stay out of range more anyway (not to mention it has a shorter recast).

[rog]

What. >____> Slow IS needed and lands consistantly (assuming you're well geared).

331 enfeeb skill, 106 mnd and my land rate is either floored, or just above the floor. the best you could do would be what? another 15 skill, and a few macc? even then a 20% land rate would hardly be enough to rely on it.

and i can assure it, it is not needed.

[rog]

Better off trying to stick Bind than Gravity on Suzaku. It's a lot easier to land and helps you stay out of range more anyway (not to mention it has a shorter recast).

bind will absolutely never land on suzy..

[Thunder]

Ice magic on the god of fire.
5% land rate atleast? I remember I got embarrassed at a pick-up kirin because I told the rdms they were retarded for trying to bind suzaku during chainspell.

[Thorny]

331 enfeeb skill, 106 mnd and my land rate is either floored, or just above the floor. the best you could do would be what? another 15 skill, and a few macc? even then a 20% land rate would hardly be enough to rely on it.

and i can assure it, it is not needed.

too lazy to dig through old posts and find what gear i used before, but my setup is better and it's still floored or close

suzy is standard delay, you don't get raped with slow off you just need to manage your buffs properly.. personally i think spamming slow 1 at timer is the best approach though

[Nevex]

bind will absolutely never land on suzy..

I've seen Bind landing on Suzaku, however it's very hard to stick that.
It's like Stun on Kirin, very high resistance but not immunity.