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    Provoke not working?

    Been partying for the last two hours on PLD/WAR, first in Qufim then in Yuhtunga, and at least 4 times my fight-opening Provoke gave me absolutely no hate. The mob stayed on the puller until a mage healed him, then went after the healer. Each time, it was after I stood up from /heal and quickly Provoked, but I've done that most fights and it's only happened a few times. I'm synced down to party leader, have FoV refresh, and of course have kupower Regen/Refresh so I suppose it could be related to any of those systems, but I'm also intermittently laggy. System think I'm still resting and thus rejecting my Provoke?

    I've been tanking on NIN for years now and never ran into this. Any guesses what's up?

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    Did you try stacking CHR?

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    I've had that happen quite a bit myself, only on crawlers though for some reason, both on Mount Zhayolm and Ayedeewa. The exact scenario you're talking about as well. Our puller pulled, I would voke on PLD/WAR and it would just stay on him until he was healed as well. I had to use my Flash early and it always messed up my timing with hate.

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    Was the puller provoke pulling?

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    RNG pulled with a crit hit? THta wouldn't explain the mob going for the healer though, weird.

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    THF/NIN puller, and I believe all of them were missed /ra's on the pull. Even if he critted, if my Provoke wouldn't peel it off the puller, the mage's Cure II shouldn't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeks View Post
    THF/NIN puller, and I believe all of them were missed /ra's on the pull.
    Yep, same here.

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    Is it possible your puller has level four enmity in her character?

    If he/she has upgraded, there enmity to level 4 then I believe there is a possibility that if your puller is pulling with provoke then you might have some issues taking hate from him/her.

    However, since you stated it was in Quifim Island then he/she would have only level 2 enmity in affect.

    Then again, I can be wrong.

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    /ra puller, and I have 4 enmity merits. It's not a matter of my Provoke giving me little hate, it's apparently giving me none at all.

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    its not enmity, pulled with provoke, or anything else logical.

    im working on getting maat's cap, and ive just finished leveling sam,mnk,rng,whm,smn,and drk to 66+ and i can also confirm "Broken Voke" or "empty voke" as ive seen jps call it.

    its not very often, maybe 1 time per party, pld or nin doesnt seem to matter, but its so infrequent, i cant really figure out what triggers it.

    Its literally as the OP says, no hate, like the move didnt even fire.

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    Actually had this happen to me as well in Yuh. Jung.

    Thf puller miss ra. I have lvl 4 enmity as well. Was weird.

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    This has happened to me at least a dozen times. It's pretty rare, but frequent enough that it can be really annoying. The times it has happened always seems to be when the mob is right on the edge of Provoke range, although that could be coincidence.

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    There was a big post on Allah about this (forget which job forum and couldn't find it for you). Apparently if you voke near max range it can happen.

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    I can attest to this happening when I've Level synced to 55ish on PLD.

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    Apparently if you voke near max range it can happen.
    This.

    I been onto it for some years but could never quite figure it out

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    Maybe Quickened (After a rest) fuck your Provoke effect?

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    have had it happen several times in dynamis, cop specifically, timer gets ate, mob turns red but nothing happens <_< like, -nothing-..the mob doesn't even come for me (from maximum range)

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    Provoke has a short activation time. It could be that the monsters path into, then out of your Provoke range before it goes off. People who have seen this happen with spells will know what I'm talking about. The monster is red, but your spell never hit it and you have no hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckethead View Post
    have had it happen several times in dynamis, cop specifically, timer gets ate, mob turns red but nothing happens <_< like, -nothing-..the mob doesn't even come for me (from maximum range)
    I can confirm this. Also, it occurred in Yhoater Jungle. It was not "once in a blue moon" though. It happened almost 3 or 4 times in a row and even the puller remarked about it on vent.

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    95% provoke accuracy cap? hahaha.

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