Arguing about how other people grill and or bbq but never bake food

[Pirian]

I was grilling chicken breasts in the middle of January. I love my fucking grill. Also need to get a new propane tank.

I was with you until this part.

[Kerberoz]

Propane isn't grilling. It's blow-torching for pussies.

[Coren]

Wood charcoal has the superior flavor, but when you get home at 10pm, the last thing you want to do is wait on a fucking grill to heat up. So propane is the easy solution. You don't lose too much in the way of flavor if you drown it in bbq sauce or other spices, and it's damn convenient. Propane is also easier for people that don't grill often and aren't used to the various hot spots and other issues that real coal can cause.

[Tajin]

a)You don't lose too much in the way of flavor
b)if you drown it in spices/sauce

I'm ok with your post but a) its an outright lie and b) kind of not the point of grilling.

[Kerberoz]

If you're not going to grill it properly, just cook it in a pan or broil it. Yes, fire is pretty, but it doesn't make things taste good on its own.

Few things in life are more rage-inducing that seeing someone throw a decent steak on a gas grill and turn it into dogfood. (yes, I know this isn't about steak)

[Pirian]

(1)Wood charcoal has the superior flavor, but when you get home at 10pm, the last thing you want to do is wait on a fucking grill to heat up. So propane is the easy solution. (2) You don't lose too much in the way of flavor if you drown it in bbq sauce or other spices, and it's damn convenient. Propane is also easier for people that don't grill often and aren't used to the various hot spots and other issues that real coal can cause.

(1)http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ch...os/chimney.jpg If you can't spare the 15 minutes it is going to take to heat up the coals (the same amount of time it is going to take to heat up a propane grill to an appropriate temp) then you should plan something else for dinner. You can get the EXACT same result searing a steak in a pan and then throwing it in the oven as you would doing it on a propane grill.
(2)Doing it wrong.

[Coren]

Do the ashes clean themselves? Or can you heat coals and clean up in 15 minutes? Propane is pretty easy cleanup. Also, last I checked, with propane you turn the nobs, hit the starter, and walk off to do something else. Do you really just dump charcoal in and light it, then leave for 15 minutes? I sure don't.

When I have time, or want to do more than 2 pieces of chicken, I'll use charcoal. Otherwise the propane grill is way easier, with less cleanup, than any other option (including searing and finishing in oven). Plus, you get those nifty grill marks!

[Coren]

Also, coal-fire purists can screw off. You're like the beer people that have to have their beer at exactly 46 degrees so the proper aromatics and flavors can be best observed or some other crock of shit.

[Tajin]

Why would you use a grill of any kind for 2 pieces of chicken if you had access to an stove ?

Do you really just dump charcoal in and light it, then leave for 15 minutes? I sure don't.

I don't follow, then again I've never really left the grill gas or coal for more than 5 mins (small house )

[FNH]

Do you really just dump charcoal in and light it, then leave for 15 minutes? I sure don't.

so what do you do?

[Pirian]

Do the ashes clean themselves? Or can you heat coals and clean up in 15 minutes? Propane is pretty easy cleanup. Also, last I checked, with propane you turn the nobs, hit the starter, and walk off to do something else. Do you really just dump charcoal in and light it, then leave for 15 minutes? I sure don't.

I let the coals burn themselves out and it's a quick dump once I light the coals. Put the chimney starter in the grill, and there's no reason you don't walk away? As much chance of starting a fire with them as you have with a propane line.

When I have time, or want to do more than 2 pieces of chicken, I'll use charcoal. Otherwise the propane grill is way easier, with less cleanup, than any other option (including searing and finishing in oven). Plus, you get those nifty grill marks!

(1) You can get the EXACT same result searing a steak in a pan and then throwing it in the oven as you would doing it on a propane grill.
(2)Doing it wrong.

[Pirian]

Also, coal-fire purists can screw off. You're like the beer people that have to have their beer at exactly 46 degrees so the proper aromatics and flavors can be best observed or some other crock of shit.

And you're one of those people who make hyperbolized stories in order to make a point when they have no evidence other than anecdotal

Why would I use a grill? I prefer grilled chicken to pan-seared.

Because you used chicken in your example. Are you for real?

[Coren]

I use my charcoal grill for the relatively rare occasion I buy steak...

What the hell crawled up your ass?

[Tajin]

You make sense and then don't, like this:

And the best part is that I don't have to clean any pans, or my stove, or my oven.
This has moved ridiculously off-topic.

So you don't clean the grill? :S

Edit: The context here is "an easy/fast meal", in a good pan you have to use little to no oil, easy to clean; dont know why you would end up cleaning the stove, or the oven if you used it.

Your only valid point here is that you like the chicken grilled, that's fair enough, the rest do not make any sense c'mon now.

[Coren]

So you don't clean the grill? :S

First, using a bit of oil on the grill greatly reduces anything sticking. Second, I very rarely put any kind of BBQ sauce directly on the grill. Third, once you keep the first two in mind, a quick once-over with a grill brush takes care of anything else. Every few months I take a pressure washer to everything. 20 seconds with a grill brush is vastly better than cleaning a pan, my stove, and my oven.

[Tajin]

Sealed, raw, final destination.

/thread.

[Mythe_Seraph]

If you're not going to grill it properly, just cook it in a pan or broil it. Yes, fire is pretty, but it doesn't make things taste good on its own.

Few things in life are more rage-inducing that seeing someone throw a decent steak on a gas grill and turn it into dogfood. (yes, I know this isn't about steak)

[archibaldcrane]

what the fuck is this shit

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

And you're one of those people who make hyperbolized stories in order to make a point when they have no evidence other than anecdotal

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[Day]

I hate beer snobs, weed snobs, steak cooked degree snobs, but most of all I really fucking hate grill snobs. Fight the good fight though, someone out there in internet world might not know that you are a pro bbq pitmaster with a phd in charcoal-kerosene debates.