career change advice, spam style ( software developer )

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2012-06-13 11:02

So spam, I'm curious if any of you know the path to take or the best way to approach becoming a programmer / software designer.

I want to eventually start my own company and make indie games and use my ties to the music industry to pull strings on great artists to score or provide music for titles. Looking to start small on maybe a mobile app to get my feet wet with eventually moving to platform releases.

Question is, if I want to learn how to do this stuff, where do I start? Do I start at the bottom working on A+ and network courses and then apply for classes at a 4 year for full on software development? Am I using the wrong language here? HALP!

I make good money but I'm tired of working for other people and in 10 years I'd love to have my own small company doing something I love and that is hopefully mildly successful. And this would involve two things I'm highly passionate about; gaming and music. And I'm willing to sink time and money into proper schooling ( not some online course bullshit or easy way out ) to achieve this.

**Linliel** · 2012-06-13 11:04

Do you know anything about programming already?

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2012-06-13 11:07

Not really, when I was in the Navy all my schooling was engineering so any mathematics and such will come easy. I still need to finish the last bits of my degree on that which would just be some elective credits. I have zero experience in programming though but I'm not afraid to start from ground zero and try.

**tyven** · 2012-06-13 11:23

well you should def fuck a boy. that is the first step in any career change

**Linliel** · 2012-06-13 11:29

While a course/degree might teach you some things, if you've half a brain and good motivation you're probably just better off jumping into it yourself. http://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming is probably a good place to start to get some pointers/links to tutorials. (they have a great FAQ: http://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/faq ). The best way to learn is to write things, so start out with a simple project and work from there. Games programming - you might want to get a book or five on that, there are some good frameworks and things that you can use to help you write games, but it's worthwhile understanding the underlying maths and theory as well (you'll be using lots of matrices, for example). Work on your basic programming skills first, then jump into simple games (an android or iphone game is probably a good way to start).

That'd be my advice, anyway.

**tyven** · 2012-06-13 11:37

how do i make an app? it can be a shitty app, i just want to make an android app and be like SUCK MY DICK YALL

**tyven** · 2012-06-13 11:38

in fact, if they app just said SUCK MY DICK YALL i would be cool with that

**Linliel** · 2012-06-13 11:41

print "SUCK MY DICK YALL"

**Linliel** · 2012-06-13 11:43

stick that in here somewhere: http://www.higherpass.com/Android/Tu...d-Application/

actually it's probably going to be System.out.println("SUCK MY DICK YALL");

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2012-06-13 11:43

Nice one Lin, thanks for that. If you have any leads on a good book or two to pick up shoot me a PM or post in this thread. I'm all for it!

And Qal, thanks for the link to that article. Good perspective on how seasoned pros are struggling on that end.

**Callisto** · 2012-06-13 11:46

Originally Posted by tyven

how do i make an app? it can be a shitty app, i just want to make an android app and be like SUCK MY DICK YALL

I wrote a program in python that asked the user if they liked turtles, and if they answered 'no' it called them a faggot

**Linliel** · 2012-06-13 11:47

I'm no pro, and haven't really done much serious programming for a while (and certainly not games programming), sorry! But if I run into anyone from the games lab downstairs I'll ask them for you

**tyven** · 2012-06-13 11:50

lin i follwed that link and it looked like a bunch of stuff written in spider monkey. it is a real shame that idk how to computer

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2012-06-13 11:56

nvm on the books end, that FAQ has it all. Nice one Lin

**Demosthenes** · 2012-06-13 12:10

Originally Posted by tyven

in fact, if they app just said SUCK MY DICK YALL i would be cool with that

http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/...e-App-Inventor

**quannum** · 2012-06-13 12:38

school is for dweebs, just learn to code off the internet,
figure out your platform ios or droid, download the sdk:

https://developer.apple.com/library/...ting%20Started
*http://developer.apple.com/library/i...ion/Intro.html

http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
*http://developer.android.com/resourc...llo-world.html

play around with it, write hello world in the device emulator.

**Odon** · 2012-06-13 15:04

I'm running out the door, but if you're serious about this, I'll jump on board with you.

**Chun Liroy** · 2012-06-13 15:38

Can I be your hip hop consultant?

**tyven** · 2012-06-13 15:43

i wish you would go consult some traffic

**Abandon** · 2012-06-13 16:51

lol

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