Themis orb drops?

[Ruffles]

I plan on doing a KS99 run this weekend, I'm currently trying to figure out what would be the best one to choose (Aspi, KB, or Nidd).

I'm trying to remember what a typical drop is from a 99 orb, I think typically 2 weapons will drop along with a bunch of other misc stuff.

Can anyone confirm this is the typical drop, or correct me if I'm incorrect please. 8)

[Not Kuno]

If you do the wyrm or turtle here is what is going to drop: Your pants. Because the drops suck and you're gonna take it from behind.

Behe is the best one for obvious reasons.


Edit: And yeah they can drop 2 weapons or the retarded abj in place of weapons.

[further]

ALl of these are from Behemoth KS99 (obviously)

http://www.sadpandals.com/LSspace/sc...15/entropy.jpg

http://www.sadpandals.com/LSspace/sc...915/astrum.jpg

http://www.sadpandals.com/LSspace/sc...915/sazaza.jpg

http://www.sadpandals.com/LSspace/sc...915/sagara.jpg

http://www.sadpandals.com/LSspace/sc.../915/tinaa.jpg

http://www.sadpandals.com/LSspace/sc.../915/zenga.jpg

[DeadLegend]

I've seen behemoth ksnm drop a 300k pool :x

[Victalyssa]

Check out this sexy loot pool

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...e/img_0192.jpg

Here's an average turtle drop too..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...e/img_0243.jpg

[wop]

Hi Victalyssa.
Since ppl posted behemoth and turtle, here's Wrym loot!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...dobop/Wyrm.jpg

3 mins ish win..... easiest BC of all.

Only thing I hate about this is the unpredictable OPENING of dragon breath 1 shotting half the alliance.

[Eaglestrike]

Behemoth is way overdone and most drops aren't worth a lot anymore. At least on Shiva...

[Victalyssa]

Hi Victalyssa.
Since ppl posted behemoth and turtle, here's Wrym loot!

3 mins ish win..... easiest BC of all.

Only thing I hate about this is the unpredictable OPENING of dragon breath 1 shotting half the alliance.

hey wop.. check this out

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...9/img_0026.png

Oh well, I quit!

[chibbs]

Um, Stylet also drops from Turtle, i haven't seen it in one the SS so i'd thought i'd mention it.

[*Shinzon*]

Did a few runs, and the drops still are pretty worthwhile, although selling an unsho is a pretty tough time.

http://www.infusion-ls.com/news/0917...horia_ks99.jpg

http://www.infusion-ls.com/news/0917..._francisco.jpg

http://www.infusion-ls.com/news/0917...s99_kitana.jpg

[Tythera]

My orbs stink:

http://www.msu.edu/~burderde/ks99.jpg

[inafume]

Did a few Behemoths on Sunday, best single run drop was Unsho and B.Hide.

The last one I did only dropped Harlequin's Horn, and the only reason I made any money off that was it coincided with that one patch that screwed up Mazurka speed.

[chiz]

Two other worthwhile weapon drops that I didn't see in those SS would be Dreizack and Purg. Mace, although neither carry the price they used to due to spammage/replacements. Most "serious" DRGs (still having nightmares about Deeds' Gungir sorry) will have a Mezraq or Orich/Triton's Lance and the 2 Pirate Cudgels/Morgenstern are pretty popular with WHMs who seek out a melee weapon.

The other major consideration when deciding which KS99 to do would be for BB items. If you don't camp Kings or don't camp all 3 Kings its a solution that can help shorten that list of MNKs that need items. Drop rate on BB items isn't that good however, definitely not 100%, I'd say closer to 20-25%.

Look over MT or Somepage's drop list, its pretty accurate and decide on which weapons you want a shot at. The only one that carries a decent price nowadays is Unsho, at least on Fairy. After that take a look at the mob specific synthesis materials. Behemoth Hides are probably the most lucrative/useful, but its not even close to 100% from Chlevnik. Maybe 25-33%, with close to 100% chance at 1 horn (which tanked courtesy of ISNM). Don't worry about the high level synthesis materials like S.cloth, D.log, D.ingot, they're too rare to factor into the decision and can drop from any of the 3 BCs.

[Victalyssa]

I'd suggest doing 3 KS 30's rather than trying your luck with one of the 3 99's. Behemoth used to be your best bet, but ISNM's and the tanking economies have even made that less than wortwhile.

[inafume]

Tanking economy? Nah. Prices are dropping, but by the same case money becomes worth more.

Now if you want to blame it on how newer weapons make the KS99 ones obsolete, you've got a point. Shinsoku (which at one point could fetch 20m) is now nearly under 1m on Gilgamesh. GKTs like Hagun put it to shame.

[*Shinzon*]

In the case of weapons like Shinsoku, Hagun was released first. People got all excited about the Drain TP. I never bought into it and glad people finally realized its garbage overall. The nerf on the Unji and Unsho, I dont know about can still get 7-10 mil for an Unsho

[chiz]

In the case of weapons like Shinsoku, Hagun was released first. People got all excited about the Drain TP. I never bought into it and glad people finally realized its garbage overall. The nerf on the Unji and Unsho, I dont know about can still get 7-10 mil for an Unsho

Shinsoku and all KS99 weapons were released before TP bonus weapons, like June 2004 I believe. TP bonus weapons were CoP additions with ENM, which were maybe February/March 2005? Same time Wyrm Horn was patched into CoP Wyrm drops.

At one point Shinsoku was the best GKT short of relic, with some SAMs arguing Ushikimaru because the higher base damage (but less STR and higher delay). In any case, it carried a price tag consistent with the perception of being the best GKT, even after Hagun was introduced since there were still lots of SAMs that bought it for e-peen or cool TP drain factor.

[*Shinzon*]

Shinsoku and all KS99 weapons were released before TP bonus weapons, like June 2004 I believe. TP bonus weapons were CoP additions with ENM, which were maybe February/March 2005? Same time Wyrm Horn was patched into CoP Wyrm drops.

Ah, yeah I wasn't exactly sure when it was introduced. But I know when I got there I picked up a Hagun and never looked back. Its almost always been about Epeen(Shinsoku). Just not practical anymore in terms of other weaponry. D:

But what exactly was it that "destroyed" the U/U? Something about the TP floor for Dual wield? Don't remember reading about it, at least not in depth.

[layoneil]

there's really nothing that drops from Turtle or Wyrm that's comparable to Behemoth Hide. i don't advise doing those other 2 for gil.

obviously you're prone to getting screwed no matter which one you do, but the odds of getting screwed out of Behemoth is lowest.

[layoneil]

But what exactly was it that "destroyed" the U/U? Something about the TP floor for Dual wield? Don't remember reading about it, at least not in depth.

TP floor was removed period, TP return is based on your delay (dual wield and martial arts count here, haste does not). but it used to be no matter how low your delay, you can't get less than 5 per hit, now you can. U/U used to always return 10 TP, now it doesn't.

whether or not that "destroyed" them is subjective.