Question about Magma hoplon

[*Shinzon*]

Can't seem to find it searching, maybe just me. Has anyone actually parsed just how damaged is absorbed by Hoplon without it being refreshed? I've heard its something around ~1,000 but I dont think thats accurate. If its been discused a link to that discusion would be great too thanks.

[Jeryhn]

I think it's more around 600-800 damage absorption.

[*Shinzon*]

Hrm I was actually thinking it was more, curious then because an SA Spinning slash didnt remove it, and it took an additional weaponskill to kill it off. Thanks though.

[Ryko]

Sometimes it just takes less damage in general from phys damage.

[Mufferino]

I would also agree that its more then 800 dmg. Ive see fully boosted chi's go off and not break it more then a few times. My best guess would be 1000-1200 but that might be a little extreme. I could be wrong and it could just be normal chi resistance. Ive had times where i broke a new stoneskin and still did roughly 400-800dmg, now that I think about it 800 dmg might be accurate.

[Nikopiko]

One spinning dive can take it off, so i'd say 700-1000.

[NynJa]

hoplon stacked ontop of a previous unremoved hoplon wont rebuff the previous stoneskin effect.

Last cerb I fought, it did a hoplon, then did another before we managed to break it off, but it was so low, it got removed right away, and we were dmging it.

[*Shinzon*]

Hrm I'm not sure then I guess it jsut did act wierd today. Because it really seemed to have taken quite a few hits before Hoplon went down, or maybe it was going down and then just immediatly being brought up. Thanks for the replies though.

[Kaylia]

hoplon stacked ontop of a previous unremoved hoplon wont rebuff the previous stoneskin effect.

Last cerb I fought, it did a hoplon, then did another before we managed to break it off, but it was so low, it got removed right away, and we were dmging it.

How is it getting tp to use it twice? Not tanking with pld/nin?



Anyway, my best guest would be a 900-1000dmg stoneskin.

[NynJa]

I think it has a small TP regen stat

[Kaylia]

I think it has a small TP regen stat

I guess it's possible, never really paid attention to that.

[Isildur]

300TP Spirits from a Hume PLD/WAR with around 1500-1600hp breaks Hoplon or does damn near enough to break it.

[shat]

i haven't seen dive 1 shot stoneskin since it first came out. ;;

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Always seemed around 1k to me. Don't really imagine any less.

[Lockecole]

On a similar note, anyone get a clue as to Cerbs sometimes natural weakness and immunity to damage? I've seen Spirits Within do WAY more than it should have on occasion, and Ive seen stuff like shield bash do less then it should have at times, and alot of times it feels like he has some sort of physical immunity up. (no, not referring to stoneskin.) Just seems like he seems so much stronger than Hydra melee wise at times, and yet I've seen WARs drop 1800 rampages on him.

Not sure if it has something to do with his spikes, or something to do with day.

[*Shinzon*]

Yeah I'd be interested to see just what exactly that is, I dont nuke period there, so I've never really been able to test it myself.

[Sci]

I think it has a small TP regen stat

I guess it's possible, never really paid attention to that.

It 100% does. Try just holding it after a Gates slips by and all of your melees are off it to recover. It'll still uses TP moves with no one hitting it, and it hitting no one.