[Ifrit] Giglamesh

[Decimus]

This post serves as notice to all LSs on Pandemonium. He is Galka and has 75NIN, 75PLD, 75SAM and possibly more jobs. Homam hands, legs, feet, Hope Torque, Aegisjahlmr, wlegs are some of the gear he was awarded with our LS; some of it in advance through deception on his part. He possesses Speed Belt that he refused to return upon request from our Leadership thereby making it a stolen LS Speed belt. He is the reason why we had to implement stricter rules within our LS making the gaming experience a bit more business-like rather than family-oriented.

He left our LS on horrible terms lotting away on items while conspiring to start up another end-game LS with gear leeched through deception. Since then, that LS has disbanded and we heard he migrated to Pandemonium to be reunited with some few ex-members from our LS. He is a supporter of RMTers of accounts and gil, any LS which frowns upon seeing gil sellers in-game should know he is one of the reasons why they are around.

[Keston]

He is a supporter of RMTers of accounts and gil, any LS which frowns upon seeing gil sellers in-game should know he is one of the reasons why they are around.

Then isn't it a ironic, that that didn't stop you from having him in your LS? Only a problem now that he isn't eh? Sorry, but your linkshell has a history of people in it that have participated in RMT activities or buying gear from them. Doesn't seem to matter to you when its benefiting your linkshell at the time (you even had people in RMT shells while being in yours at the same time... u didn't care as long as it wasn't during your events).

Giglamesh was a very, very good player a couple years ago, he was in my LS for a good while. Then he joined your LS, and I started to see a definite change in his attitude and his actions. One time, I remember when your LS jacked a Dynamis zone from HappyHumans, even though I told Gig we had it reserved for months. You didn't have a problem doing it, and he didn't have a problem going along with you.

I feel no sympathy for you Decimus. Sucks to see the player Giglamesh has seemingly turned into over time still (h2u ifrit endgame scene). However, I do think that he is still what I would call a dedicated player. Meaning whichever LS he is in, he does put in his share of effort... earning the things he acquires. Good for him, he's rid of the ifrit kids.

Your spiteful attempt is pretty transparent.

He is the reason why we had to implement stricter rules within our LS making the gaming experience a bit more business-like rather than family-oriented.

You steered gear Gig's way when he was your current "favorite". More like he was the slap in your face for appointing gear via favoritism shafting others who worked harder when he turned on you.

[Aphelidia]

im pretty sure this topic isnt be about SPQR, but rather one of their former member.

What is it about Ifrit that drama so easily comes by <.< Seems to me everyone will take all opportunity they get to attack someone or a LS on this server.

The RMT point is somewhat moot now, since there are hardly any around anymore. Doesnt make it ok if he did, it just doesnt matter as much anymore.

How do you reserve a dynamis zone months in advance anyway?

Back to the point, no matter how dedicated someone has been to a LS for the items he "earned", leaving that LS over some BS is just fucked up. Those ppl are the ones that helped him get all those items, and he ditched. Of course, we dont know the whole story, but I always find it shitty when someone leaves a LS after acquiring so many items from them, no matter the reason.

That said, I dont know this Giglamesh person, and Ive only seen Deci around, but never really interracted(sp?) with him much that i remember. But I do know a thing or two about how SPQR is at this time, based on a few friends I know that are in it now, and it doesnt seem to be as bad as these haters here makes it out to be.

[Keston]

im pretty sure this topic isnt be about SPQR, but rather one of their former member.

This topic is nothing more than leader of said LS, trying to /flex and spite someone by dragging their name through the mud. "Look what I can do to you bitch... dare to tangle with me do u?".

How do you reserve a dynamis zone months in advance anyway?

DynamisCalendar.com, the scheduling almost every (NAs, and some JPs) Dynamis LS on the server used. They knew about it, they just decided to hi-jack the zone.

Back to the point, no matter how dedicated someone has been to a LS for the items he "earned", leaving that LS over some BS is just fucked up.

I guess he should stay longer, get more gear, and have you/they bitch even more? amirite? Sorry, you're not making sense. If you are no longer happy in a linkshell, and see little options of that improving... its time to leave. If noone ever left an LS they got gear in, any/every new applicant would have nothing at all coming in.

[Judai]

It's pretty bad when I agree with Keston on something.

He is a supporter of RMTers of accounts and gil, any LS which frowns upon seeing gil sellers in-game should know he is one of the reasons why they are around.

Then isn't it a ironic, that that didn't stop you from having him in your LS? Only a problem now that he isn't eh? Sorry, but your linkshell has a history of people in it that have participated in RMT activities or buying gear from them. Doesn't seem to matter to you when its benefiting your linkshell at the time (you even had people in RMT shells while being in yours at the same time... u didn't care as long as it wasn't during your events).

SPQRmt is my personal nickname for Deci's LS. They had many players join well known RMT shells and farm sky with them for months. Decimus' personal stance was, "I don't have proof they are RMT shells and they don't do it during SPQR events". Well, 90% of the server knew the LSes SPQR people did Sky with, were RMT. He had no problem with players like Galinder, Ulgo, Kymahri, etcetc farming Sky all day with RMT but all of a sudden he had a problem with Gig doing things with RMT? There were several threads and confrontations about his LS members helping RMT and everyone was tyring to get them to stop but Decimus turned his back on the problem.

Now, I don't know Gig and I heard about the "stolen" Speed Belt. Don't know the specifics but don't really care. The point is Deci has no credibilty when it comes to bashing players about "RMT activity".

btw, wrong area.. viewforum.php?f=57

[Sev]

Giglamesh was always very nice and helpful when I was around him. Good player.

RMT shit is true, but like many said it was perfectly fine according to the spqr rules to farm and leech RMT unless LS event or Another NA linkshell was there.

Just for old school lulz Judai old rmt rant

And like said wrong forum for a warning.

[Sefier]

LOL Decimus cries some more!
Giglamesh is an awesome pld and nin, over all hes an awesome guy.
People don't conspire against a ls leader for no reason. In fact iirc you've had this happen to you...what twice now? your a fucking cunt Decimus, lower than even me on ifrit. giant fucking hypocrit, w/ a giant fucking ego.
Yes i will continue to say fucking since it add's aggression or some shit.

I have SS's of you badgering Ragingbull, but you openly accepted him into your ls, funny right?

Also got tells from your members harrassing me, cause i messed w/ there "family" Decimus. plz GTFO. lol glad it happens again, show's that people are learning.










judy its "SPQRetarded" gosh! <3 hi ifrit *awaits ulgokiem and the rest of gals pals*

[Aphelidia]

How do you reserve a dynamis zone months in advance anyway?

DynamisCalendar.com, the scheduling almost every (NAs, and some JPs) Dynamis LS on the server used. They knew about it, they just decided to hi-jack the zone.

dude, dyna-calendar isnt absolute. I mean, its shitty that they didnt respect it if they knew about it, but even on that site they tell you to not schedule more than 1 month in advance <.<

Back to the point, no matter how dedicated someone has been to a LS for the items he "earned", leaving that LS over some BS is just fucked up.

I guess he should stay longer, get more gear, and have you/they bitch even more? amirite? Sorry, you're not making sense. If you are no longer happy in a linkshell, and see little options of that improving... its time to leave. If noone ever left an LS they got gear in, any/every new applicant would have nothing at all coming in.

Like i said, we dont know the whole story. but honestly, theres no excuse for jacking up a speed belt if it was agreed it was a LS item and had to be returned if he left.

[Mafai]

This post serves as notice to all LSs on Pandemonium. He is Galka and has 75NIN, 75PLD, 75SAM and possibly more jobs. Homam hands, legs, feet, Hope Torque, Aegisjahlmr, wlegs are some of the gear he was awarded with our LS; some of it in advance through deception on his part. He possesses Speed Belt that he refused to return upon request from our Leadership thereby making it a stolen LS Speed belt. He is the reason why we had to implement stricter rules within our LS making the gaming experience a bit more business-like rather than family-oriented.

He left our LS on horrible terms lotting away on items while conspiring to start up another end-game LS with gear leeched through deception. Since then, that LS has disbanded and we heard he migrated to Pandemonium to be reunited with some few ex-members from our LS. He is a supporter of RMTers of accounts and gil, any LS which frowns upon seeing gil sellers in-game should know he is one of the reasons why they are around.

If i remember correctly this came from a KS99 run, so the question is...

Who did the orb belong to?

If the answer is not Giglamesh, stop reading now.

If the answer to this question is Giglamesh, what doesn't give him the right to take HIS belt from the seals HE earned?

I have a good feeling this was Giglamesh's orb, and you feel your LS should keep the belt from his hard work earning seals. That fight takes what? 12 minutes max? It doesn't compare to how long it takes someone to get 99 seals.

[Rem]

This post serves as notice to all LSs on Pandemonium. He is Galka and has 75NIN, 75PLD, 75SAM and possibly more jobs. Homam hands, legs, feet, Hope Torque, Aegisjahlmr, wlegs are some of the gear he was awarded with our LS; some of it in advance through deception on his part. He possesses Speed Belt that he refused to return upon request from our Leadership thereby making it a stolen LS Speed belt. He is the reason why we had to implement stricter rules within our LS making the gaming experience a bit more business-like rather than family-oriented.

He left our LS on horrible terms lotting away on items while conspiring to start up another end-game LS with gear leeched through deception. Since then, that LS has disbanded and we heard he migrated to Pandemonium to be reunited with some few ex-members from our LS. He is a supporter of RMTers of accounts and gil, any LS which frowns upon seeing gil sellers in-game should know he is one of the reasons why they are around.

If i remember correctly this came from a KS99 run, so the question is...

Who did the orb belong to?

If the answer is not Giglamesh, stop reading now.

If the answer to this question is Giglamesh, what doesn't give him the right to take HIS belt from the seals HE earned?

I have a good feeling this was Giglamesh's orb, and you feel your LS should keep the belt from his hard work earning seals. That fight takes what? 12 minutes max? It doesn't compare to how long it takes someone to get 99 seals.

I remember reading that Deci had some lame rule that if you got a speed belt from a KS99 done with his ls, it belongs to the ls for 6 months or something like that. I think it was posted somewhere on BG. lol

[Valisk]

I remember reading that Deci had some lame rule that if you got a speed belt from a KS99 done with his ls, it belongs to the ls for 6 months or something like that. I think it was posted somewhere on BG. lol

http://bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic...618124#p618124

[Mafai]

We let older, active members (6 months+ with LS) keep Speedbelt if they choose to not sell it. Newer members who get a Speedbelt from their orb gets it confiscated by me until they fulfill their term with our LS. Members wishing to keep Juggernaut must pay LS bank 25% of price close to AH price.

1/22 on Speedbelt, 0/22 Juggernaut, 2/22 Wyrm Beard

The date on this post was July, that is 7 months ago, so a couple points to be made here.

We let older, active members (6 months+ with LS) keep Speedbelt if they choose to not sell it. Newer members who get a Speedbelt from their orb gets it confiscated by me until they fulfill their term with our LS.

Obviously he fulfilled his terms with the LS, since you did not have the Speed Belt. Also, he did not decide to sell it, he is keeping it. So what is wrong with him taking HIS item?

Your bashing this guy because he took an item thats his.

[Valisk]

We let older, active members (6 months+ with LS) keep Speedbelt if they choose to not sell it. Newer members who get a Speedbelt from their orb gets it confiscated by me until they fulfill their term with our LS.

Obviously he fulfilled his terms with the LS, since you did not have the Speed Belt. Also, he did not decide to sell it, he is keeping it. So what is wrong with him taking HIS item?

Your bashing this guy because he took an item thats his.

I was gonna point that out after reading the whole thread for laughs and giggles but you beat me to it.

We've gotten one Speedbelt out of 22 runs over a period of 3 months. We lucked out with our first one since it actually dropped for one of our main PLD/NIN on his orb.

Yea Giglamesh was one of their main PLDs so I'd say he falls under the "older and active" category who is allowed to keep their belt on their orb.

[Ramsos]

First things first, Keston has no business telling anyone how to run a successful linkshell. His shell never made it out of sky and was filled with some of the most hopeless players you will ever see. Keston, your idea of linkshell loyalty is laughable. If everyone did what you think is "proper" than there would be no linksells because everyone would be out for only themselves. This game requires teamwork, you dont use someone to get something you want, abandon then, then complain when they call you an asshole.

Seifer/Squire/Nuker please get banned again so you have to make a fourth character.

Now for the matter of giglamesh and the stolen speedbelt. I dont know why deci left it out, but the reason why it is considered stolen is this: the rule of being a dedicated member for 6+ months is true but there was more after that. If anyone with speedbelt leaves linkshell for another endgame linkshell they have to sell the belt and give SPQR 25%. Either that or give belt back and we pay 75% out of linkshell bank (preferred option). Giglamesh knew these rules and decided that they did not apply to him for who knows what reason.

Giglamesh left our linkshell on horrible terms. Gave us absolutely no warning and never even said he left, just dropped pearl out of nowhere. The very same day he started his own linkshell with known whore Greyenigma and bought account Cuban. Giglamesh got defaulted homam pieces and crimson pants over more deserving members for the sole reason of making him a better pld. He recently got pld to 75 and was lacking in gear. Did he deserve to lot on this stuff? Some of it yes, but he did not deserve having it default uncontested. Especially if he knew all along that he was basically using us for gear and had no intetion of helping anyone else.

So a warning to any linkshell on pandemonium, if you invite him expect to get used and abused when he falls for the latest E-pussy that is available.

[Mafai]

In Decimus's post that Valisk linked to, the 25% buyout was stated only for juggernaut.

Members wishing to keep Juggernaut must pay LS bank 25% of price close to AH price.

LS bank gets 25% of Juggernaut or Speedbelt price if the orb user wants to sell those items.

he doesnt want to sell it.

[Ramsos]

I know thats why I am confused because those are not complete linkshell rules and I dont know why deci wouldnt have posted the right ones.

Basically I am correcting his error, regardless Giglamesh knew the real rules before he stole the belt and did it anyway.

*edit* wait I know what that part of the post is about. That is if he wants to sell the belt while staying in linkshell. Our rule back then was that 25% of entire orb was given to linkshell bank. Belt or juggy were allowed to be kept without payment as long as holder was a member.

[Valisk]

If anyone with speedbelt leaves linkshell for another endgame linkshell they have to sell the belt and give SPQR 25%. Either that or give belt back and we pay 75% out of linkshell bank (preferred option). Giglamesh knew these rules and decided that they did not apply to him for who knows what reason.

Just curious about this rule. Who determines the price of the Speedbelt? The AH? Do people actually comply with this rule when they leave the LS?

Giglamesh left our linkshell on horrible terms. Gave us absolutely no warning and never even said he left, just dropped pearl out of nowhere.

Do you blame him? With rules like that I'd just up and leave too. From what I can tell, those rules dont promote loyalty. They encompass resentment and remorse.

[Ramsos]

Price of speedbelt was determined by bazaars in batalia downs (there is usually at least one for sale there at any given time). AH is unreliable since as far as I know they dont sell on there often. Giglamesh was our only person to ever get a speedbelt, our rule has changed that the belt is seized on the spot and sold. No its not fair but we have to protect ourselves from people who are ready and willing to steal from us.

Your linkshell doesnt really have to deal with this since you can cheat for any gear your people want. Nothing is really special for you. I am not attacking your linkshell just pointing out how your point of view is differant. Speedbelt may not seem like a big deal to a linkshell that rots landking loot since noone can outclaim you, but it is a big deal to us.

[Rem]

Those KS99 rules seem sketchy but if he put in the time to help others on their KS99 runs then I don't feel he's the thief you're making him out to be.

Defaulting the gear to him to make a decent/well geared pld for your ls is always a risk.

[BerenTebogo]

Jesus christ lol

Starting tomorrow any mob I tank that drops a seal I'm declaring as mine because I did most of the work, can't argue with it, or I'll just seize it on the spot.