[Ifrit] Cuban & Greyenigma (bc)

[dedarkelf]

Previous linkshell illuminate (i think both were in it)

Phonam has Jobs: 75 Whm, Blm, Rdm, Brd, Smn, Pld, Nin. 71 War, 66 Sam, Mnk, 48 drk 37 28 Drg, 20 Thf, Rng.

Greyenigma has the jobs 75 RDM, WHM, BLM, BRD

any info on these two?

[Aurara]

Never seen Phonam, but i have seen grey around, i dont know much about them but i have seen grey around, haven't really heard anything bad about her though.

[Ramsos]

Where do I even begin...

I know nothing of Phonam so I wont comment on him, but grey.
Greyenigma was was a member of SPQR for a few months. Was a model player in the beginning. Helpful, available for events, etc. We even brought in her account buyer friend Cuban. She quit the game at some point and gave away all her gear/gil. She came back after a few weeks and had a very differant attitude. Was more selfish and would just skip events. Would demand help with the smallest things like camping Roc for her. We went to help her camp Roc before a limbus run and got drop. She made up a bullshit excuse about not likeing one of our members commenting on a random person in town with dumb gear about an hour after drop and left the shell. Sure Roc isnt exactly the biggest NM in the game, but yeah leaving about an hour after dragging the whole shell out to help you seems like bad manners to me.

She never said once before this event that she was unhappy in the shell.

Before I even go into a rant over this and get flamed worse than I already am going to be, this whole situation was already discussed on a BC for her good buddy Giglamesh (page 9 or 10 on this section of forum).

Basically, stay FAR FAR away from this whore if you dont want to lose members. She will undermine your leadership in every way just to get what she wants. She was helpful in the beginning, but was nothing but trouble in the long run. She took a few of our members that she could convince to leave (she was recruiting members for her new shell while she was still in ours) and was camping aspi 2 days later. Now these people she took from us were no real loss since they mostly sucked and played infrequently, but its the principle that she started her own shell just to get dalmatica (which she never got since her people are terrible).

If you have no problem losing a few of your members to a whore who likes to cyber with people and give sob stories for people to give her free gil, by all means take her. I'm just giving you the warning of what she did to us. Just dont loan her real money when she cries about some bullshit situation irl, you will never see that money again.

[Decimus]

I never heard of Phonam, but I will comment on Greyenigma who used to be our member. I cannot recommend this player to any LS that is dedicated to end-game.

Grey joined our LS when she had just WHM leveled. Got lots of help with missions, but was also quite active. Very helpful, but at times very selfish (lvling job or logging out before an LSevent). Lots of emotional baggage, I don't know what to think of everything I've heard about this player. She is either 1) a disabled woman who is playing this game to flirt with men online or 2) some fatass guy playing with the emotions of the weak-minded.

Anyway, this player left our LS because she did not get her way. I denied applications for many of her friends who she would recommend for our LS at a whim. Conspired against our LS and left with two other members who she convinced would be better off leaving our LS to join her new LS. Constantly tried to recruit our other members to join her LS. In the end she failed and the other members who left to join that LS failed. This is the last of those failures on the way out from Ifrit.

[Zragnarok]

Maybe Grey sold her account ? Are you sure it's the same player as before she quit and came back ? It won't change the fact that it's not a recommended person but it can explain why she changed like that

[Ramsos]

I'm pretty sure its the same person, but theres always the possibility it is a irl friend that the account was given to. When she came back she had a very differant attitude toward the game, but she still hung around with the same people she did before quitting.

[Rem]

I don't know either of these two but if Phonam is a name change then his/her Ifrit name might be Namine. I don't know if thats them for sure but last night someone brought up her (Nam) moving to Phoenix with a friend over LS chat. She wasn't in the ls for long so I don't have anything positive or negative to say, if it is them, other than they did show up to all events during their short stay.

Edit: Edit over edit, I have bad sleuthing skills.

[Sanriku]

Phonam was a friend of mine (had a few other chars with various names), more commonly known as Cuban.

Grey and cuban are IRL bf/gf and they are awesome people. I've known both of them for a while (IG) and never had any issues with them.

HOWEVER!!!!
Due to IRL shit, they both quit and sold off all gear/gil/chars to make some money back for thier effort and help out with I believe the baby (don't quote me 100% on that part). I was speaking with cuban when he was talking to the company that was trying to buy his chars. So that part, I am very sure of, that they sold them. I'm not gonna get into detail about what company, or how much they paid, but I know he sold them. This was roughly a month ago, could be a bit more.

Hope this is helpful to ya ^.^

[Ramsos]

So is cuban the bf who constantly beat the shit out of grey irl and stole all her money, but she was too stupid to leave him so she kept going back to him? Or was that just one more of her pathetic attempts to get people to feel sorry for her.

[NamiNami]

I've known Grey for some time now and she has been really helpful and friendly. I was also a part of her LS and I never had any problems with her. She has also been helpful to many people helping them in game with missions and various other things. If that is being selfish...then I wonder what being nice would be...

Personally I wouldn't trust anything from these SPQR people....not that I really know who they are but, I've heard to many bad things about them and how they treat their members...so I wouldn't be surprised why many people left their shell and anyone who leaves their ls gets harassed and stuff made up about them. I bet they would do same if someone ran off with 1 gil or ninja lotted a earth crystal and treat it like it was something 100 times worse. lol

[Ramsos]

Yes im positive you heard completely 100% unbiased opinions of SPQR people to get your idea of how we treat our members.

We treat or members very well for the effort they put into the shell. Im sure grey/cuban/all the other morons she took, all had their share of stories that they took out of context to make us seem like monsters. We dont "make stuff up" about people who leave since most people who are former members were kicked. Why would we kick someone if we had no reason to do so? Why would you not kick people who constantly take pearls off and exp low jobs or camp stupid shit when you are trying to get an event going that was announced on the lsmes days earlier? Why would you not kick people who conveniantly only log on when you do events they get something from, and cry for hours on ls about how unfair it is that they cant lot against people who have been to 100 more events than they have?

I bet grey was very helpful to the people in her new shell. She would have to be the biggest fucking retard on the planet if she didnt help people so they would listen to her stories. Fact is that she stopped helping SPQR people and started making her own shell when it became apparent that she would not be getting defaulted much of the things she wanted for jobs she didnt even have leveled(she only had 75 whm the entire time she was in SPQR).

[dedarkelf]

Title changed for accuracy and whatnot...

Im sure grey/cuban/all the other morons she took, all had their share of stories that they took out of context to make us seem like monsters.

Not saying what you said about them is wrong or anything.. just on there app they didn't try to make you and your ls sound like monsters... they just mentioned a situation that had occured.


thanks for the replies so far

[mareso]

I haven't played XI in three months. I'm posting here to to say that Greyenigma/Rachel had a borderline personality disorder and was constantly lying. I found out several things after our friendship broke off. I did talk to her a lot in game and out and when I couldn't continue being her nin tank in the perma we had going I decided it might best to stop talking to her because, here's my point, she was only interested in gear. I did receive some things from her when she quit and it was a tremendous amount value of gil that she handed out only to be replaced within a week's time. I asked her where'd she get her gil and her response "I do alot of BCs." That to me was utter bullshit because i knew that even though Cuban and another Samurai constantly farmed seals there was no way that the split gil from doing Krub BCs that didn't drop it could net that kind of gil. Later after quitting through a middle party I was talk that she indeed did buy gil, take that into account if you will.

SPQR was indeed full of assholes and ingrates but it wasn't around for bullshit. You either pulled your weight or left. It does take a special kind of tolerance to be in SPQR but it's fun and with that said those that have left the LS in a huff are those that cannot cope with the stupid Mexican jokes. Which reminds me...I want some tacos...

In summation, Grey is twofaced, SPQR was cool but not cool enough for Grey since we didn't do things the way she wanted.

[Sanriku]

SPQR has all the assholes of the server, this is true. But it is irrelevant to the topic of this post, please stay on track.

BTW, I use 'asshole' in the best sense of the term. I know most of them and they are really cool people. They are a little too hardcore for me, and my play times don't work well. But I think I had a pearl back when it started lol. <3 SPQR!!!! You guys rule.

Watch out for Grey and Cuban/Phonam, if they are bought accounts. If not, Cuban is awesome people. Never really played with Grey. I don't know her drama, nor do I know of any of the personal issues with her and previous bf's (or if cuban was the one the supposedly 'beat' her).

[Keston]

I seem to remember Cuban as being a decent player from back in the day. If they leaving Ifrit, then count that as a smarts+1 on their behalf.

The SPQR wankers always seem to have the same regard/atmostphere when speaking negatively about anyone... so I would not put too much weight in what they say. Always seem to be on a mission to paint whomever as kin of the devil.

If the two accounts are applying to the same shell, chances are its the same people I would be inclined to think. If the account(s) was RMT'd/sold to a company, the chances of both then ending up together on the buyer's end would be very slim.

[Ramsos]

For one thing keston, this cuban is not the original one. Greyenigma bought the account for her friend, its not the same guy you knew.

Second thing is that you have no idea of anything that happened in this situation. You left the server (thank you so much for doing this by the way) before this happened. Noone is coming here to defend against these accusations since they are 100% true. That Naminami person doesnt count, who cares what an anon poster has to say. There is no "Naminami" person on ifrit from what I can tell so untill they come out from behind their anon name their argument means nothing.

[NamiNami]

I'm not a anon poster, I'm Namine. =3
...and I'll have to put the word of about 8-9 people over the word of shell holder and a sac holder. Especially with the rumors in general I've heard from non linkshell members as well. I highly doubt all these people are telling the same lie...if so. There must be a anti-SPQR group rising up and trying to give you guys a bad name! lol

[Keston]

Noone is coming here to defend against these accusations since they are 100% true.

What are you, a retarded 9 year old? OK GUYZ... IF YOU SAY NOTHING.. EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS 100% TRUE OK? You should pray to god asking him if Chuck Norris is Jesus and take his silence to mean its 100% true. Man wish I had your logic, the answers to life's mysteries would be SO much easier.

Maybe not everyone inhales BG forums like some of you? Or maybe some people are above responding (yes, there are some that are).

[Ramsos]

Keston why are you even here? I just told you that this cuban isnt the one that you knew. You cant get a postcount+1 from posting here as far as I know so im confused. I know your whole argument "if they dont post it doesnt mean they agree with you" and you are absolutely right with this, but this is differant because they themselves know that I am right. I would love for Greyenigma to come here and try to explain what happend because 1) it would be a lie, and 2) it would be funny to hear her try to explain.

Ok so "Naminami" is an alias for someone named "Namine", idk why you wouldnt use your real name when posting but thats just semantics. I would really like to know who some of these "8-9 people" are who claim to know so much about SPQR. I could probably point out a number of reasons why any of these people would have hurt feelings about us.

Its really not a secret by any stretch of the imagination that we are one of the, if not the most, hated shells on the ifrit server. We dont put up with peoples bullshit and we turn down most of the applications that we get. We kick people who lie on their applications and dont pull their weight. I think the only shell on the server that matters that doesnt hate our guts is Valour, and I only assume this since we have very little interaction with them.

[Sev]

Grey was nice and helpful when I was around, to the issues that did or did not happen recently I can't speak of really. If it was only decimus coming and trashing I would be less inclinded to believe what they are saying, but Ramsos in my experience may over react on certain threads but rarely has his facts wrong.