Brutal New York (Pics from 1965-95 depicting a city in shambles)

[fren.]

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=402544

Pretty fascinating stuff. I lived Astoria, Queens for a year in 1993 and didn't attend first grade until I moved to New Jersey at the age of 6. I do remember that certain area being a complete shithole (lolQueens) but nothing like this.

From page 8-9

in 1990 the total murders for NYC was 2,262
in 2007 the total murders for NYC was 496
So far in 2008, there has been 200 murders

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloa...ics/cscity.pdf

1980 - 1,814
1981 - 1,826
1982 - 1,668
1983 - 1,622
1984 - 1,450
1985 - 1,384
1986 - 1,582
1987 - 1,672
1988 - 1,896
1989 - 1,905
1990 - 2,262
1991 - 2,154
1992 - 1,995
1993 - 1,946
1994 - 1,561
1995 - 1,117
1996 - 983
1997 - 770
1998 - 629
1999 - 664
2000 - 673
2001 - 660
2002 - 587
2003 - 596
2004 - 572
2005 - 540
2006 - 596
2007 - 496

I can't even wrap my heads around the death tolls back then, jesus christ.

[Gafgarionn]

That's an awesome thread. I highly recommend everyone read at least the first post.

I'm too young to really know how bad NYC used to be. Growing up I had always heard about how violent it was and how poorly many of the people there lived, but when I finally made my way up there on a family vacation several years back I remember being impressed. Granted, we were on vacation so we went to the nicer areas for the most part, but even some of the bad areas we ventured to seemed ok. Little did I know that only a couple decades ago the place could nearly be considered a war zone.

[Meat]

nyc was really shite till Giuliani took over, real talk

[Sythe]

Wow thats pretty crazy. I've lived there almost my whole life and to be honest some of those pictures don't look "that" bad lol. Definitely a big difference to now though. It's like you dont' notice when your in the middle of it (and young)

[Chreman]

Incredible.

[yayaok]

fuck... there are times when i give thanks to my parents and some unknown deity for letting me live a happy luxurious life compared to those in poverty, i should do it more often
reading this was extremely shocking, its after you look at things like these you realize you're really lucky

[Kuya]

Wow, no wonder they're all assholes.

[sb]

nyc was really shite till Giuliani took over, real talk

NYC was really "shite" until Dinkens put 10,000 additional new cops in the streets. The results of which were really felt in and often mis-credited to the Giuliani era.

[miokomioko]

stopped caring when I saw a picture of a guy shooting up with the caption "injecting themselves with the american way of life" stfu.

[Lee]

stopped caring when I saw a picture of a guy shooting up with the caption "injecting themselves with the american way of life" stfu.

I agree, I cringed at that comment.

[Not Kuno]

That's pretty brutal, though, as a kid my parents brought me all around NYC due to various reasons and I remember alot of shitty scenes like that. >.>

[Olo401]

NYC was really "shite" until Dinkens put 10,000 additional new cops in the streets. The results of which were really felt in and often mis-credited to the Giuliani era.

iirc the funding for this came from the Clinton Administration's massive funding & lobbying efforts for community policing. Then again, I suppose you could also say that this increase in police presence had other intended and unintended consequences, which were implemented by Guiliani.

And yea.. I remember a huge difference just in the city's feel from when I went to NYC with student trips in like 1991 vs. clubbing/concerts/etc. in the late 90s/early 00's.

[Sunrider]

Wow, no wonder they're all assholes.

Funny story, I recently returned to California after six years in Jersey. Aside from the youth(kids are little dickheads no matter where you go nowadays), people on the east coast--and NY specifically--are more affable and polite than on the west coast(or California at least), whether on the road or in person.

Californians? I've found we're a bunch of snots.

[Myst]

i'd steal shit too if i lived there.

[MisterBob]

Pictures would have been way better without that guy's retarded comments.

[Tyche]

I love this picture because the Statue of Liberty embellishes all that is the american dream. As you sail in and see the statue, you know you've arrived. Yet just a few miles away...

http://www.american-pictures.com/gal.../usa-00181.jpg

[Elesirdur]

Very moving, thank you for posting this. I really had no idea the state of urban decay that NYC suffered in the 60s and they legacy they have to live with today.

[ninjafox]

I remember NYC being like this. Times Square was a proverbial whoretown back in the day

[Xno Kappa]

The story about James and Barbara was depressing. Awesome thread, I thought NYC was horrible when I was growing up in it but this is horrendous. It really reminds me how grateful I should be and how strong my mother was in raising me and my brother and sister. Stuff like this really pisses me off when you compare it to emo kids shooting up schools because girls don't like them, some people simply don't understand what they have and take it for granted.

[Pun]

Thanks for posting, was a great read. I'm going to send it to my parents since they lived in New York for their whole lives until they had me and my brother; interested in what they have to say about it since they never really mentioned anything like this in the past.