Sam/Polearm Gear

[Tharen]

What is the best gear build for sam using Engetsuto(+1)?

[Rama]

Take your Hagun 6-hit build, replace bushinomimi with something with +acc, replace J.torque with Love torque or PCC. Ask for a madrigal.

For penta, do acc > attk > mods.


You may need a bit more StoreTP to get 100% in 5hits with 480 delay Engetsuto. You should only need this extra storetp when penta hits less than 3 hits, or when you get feather tickled. The rest of the time, a 6-hit hagun build gets you penta 4-hit penta.

[FailureMidgard]

Not going to retype everything since we just did this last week:

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62151

Summary: You want capped accuracy, but it should be relatively easy to hit this if you have Madrigal. Drop accuracy for Mods if you can.

[Zilong]

For TP gear, barring the change of neckpiece, I pretty much use the same TP gearset as my normal SAM set, which isn't an issue since colibri's evasion is a good bit lower than say, mamools, and I usually set for either hunter's roll or madrigal to be on all time.

The huge change is on the WS set though, since it'd focus on ACC/ATK over GKT's STR.

Here is the macro script for my Polearm WS set.

input /equip head "Hissho Hachimaki";
input /equip neck "Shadow Gorget";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Minuet Earring";
input /equip body "Haubergeon +1";
input /equip hands "Usukane Gote";
input /equip ring1 "Divisor Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip waist "Life Belt";
input /equip legs "Byakko's Haidate";
input /equip feet "Usukane Sune-Ate";
input /equip back "Forager's Mantle";
input /equip ammo "Tiphia Sting";

Possible upgrade to my current build is Cerb+1 for back, Black Tanthlum for ammo.

I use Tomoe/Pole grip for main/sub

[Siralin]

I don't have much experience with polearm, but don't you think something like Bandos would do better than usu gloves? You have a shit load of acc already....Like I said though, no experience with it so I'm just guessing.

[SamanosukeShiva]

usu glove is better for penta, since collibri have high eva and polearm only cap @240 for sam, unless you have max polearm merit/madrigal or hunter roll, i wouldnt advise using atk instead of acc.

here's my ideal TP set-up on polearm

Head: Ace's Helm
Ammo: Black Tathlum
Neck: Love Torq
Earing: Brutal/ w/e earring, bushin, hollow, ethereal etc.
Body: Usukane
Hands: Dusk+1
Rings: Rajas/ w/e Acc Ring
Back: Cerb/Amemet/+1/foragers
Belt: Speed
Legs: Byakko
Feet: Usukane

5-hit, +16% Haste

[Tharen]

How much store TP in gear do you need for 5 hit?

[FailureMidgard]

For TP gear, barring the change of neckpiece, I pretty much use the same TP gearset as my normal SAM set, which isn't an issue since colibri's evasion is a good bit lower than say, mamools, and I usually set for either hunter's roll or madrigal to be on all time.

The huge change is on the WS set though, since it'd focus on ACC/ATK over GKT's STR.

Here is the macro script for my Polearm WS set.

input /equip head "Hissho Hachimaki";
input /equip neck "Shadow Gorget";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Minuet Earring";
input /equip body "Haubergeon +1";
input /equip hands "Usukane Gote";
input /equip ring1 "Divisor Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip waist "Life Belt";
input /equip legs "Byakko's Haidate";
input /equip feet "Usukane Sune-Ate";
input /equip back "Forager's Mantle";
input /equip ammo "Tiphia Sting";

Possible upgrade to my current build is Cerb+1 for back, Black Tanthlum for ammo.

I use Tomoe/Pole grip for main/sub

Since you assumed Madrigal, you are -definitely- over the accuracy cap. Modifiers are good, esp dex since it's not as big of an acc loss.

Lightning Bow +1 > Tiphia Sting (this one is an accuracy upgrade too)
Potent Belt > Life Belt (Warwolf potentially...3 str is def better than 2 acc for you though)
AF+1 Hands > Usukane Gote

If you don't have Madrigal, then sure, keep the acc.

[Judai]

My personal set-up;

TP

Tomoe - Pole Grip - - Black Tathlum
Aces's Helm - PCC - Merman's - Brutal
Hauby+1 - Usu Gote - Sniper's +1 - Rajas
Cerb - Swift - Byakko's - Usu Sune-ate

Gives you pretty good Acc for TP(+65Acc+27Dex), though you would still want to use Sushi or get a Madrigal for best results.

Penta

Tomoe - Pole Grip - - Black Tathlum
Askar Helm - PCC - Merman's - Brutal
Hauby+1 - Enkidu's Mittens - Triumph - Rajas
Cerb - Warwolf - Usu Hiyazoroi - Usu Sune-ate

Keeps a good amount of Acc/Atk while still adding a solid amount of Dex/Str. With Mad/Zerk you can focus on Mods imo.

[VZX]

What is the best gear build for sam using Engetsuto(+1)?

Full Usukane

[Zilong]

How much store TP in gear do you need for 5 hit?

+44 IIRC

Ideally, that'd be brutal, rajas, usukane feet + body and full STP merit.

[Tharen]

So with a 480 delay, I need +44? If so, what would be better? Dusk gloves +1/Hachiman sune-ate +1 w/6 hit or Hachiman kote/Hachiman sune-ate +1 w/5 hit?

[Binkie]

Delay - - - TP - - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - - 5 Hit
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - -9 - - - -25 - - - - -46 - - - -74
480 - - - - 13.0 - - - -0 - - - - -0 - - - -10 - - - - -29 - - - -54

With 480 delay you need +54 to get a full 5 hit setup. I wear +49 and manage a penta+4 hit setup getting 19/20~ TP per hit.

[LinktheDeme]

Since you assumed Madrigal, you are -definitely- over the accuracy cap. Modifiers are good, esp dex since it's not as big of an acc loss.

Lightning Bow +1 > Tiphia Sting (this one is an accuracy upgrade too)
Potent Belt > Life Belt (Warwolf potentially...3 str is def better than 2 acc for you though)
AF+1 Hands > Usukane Gote

If you don't have Madrigal, then sure, keep the acc.

I was actually about to argue with you that with madrigal he'd be at the acc cap then i saw his gear again and realized hes most likely at acc cap without madrigal. its definitly parseable.

[Evildemon]

What about War polearm builds

[SamanosukeShiva]

adaberk, askar head, dusks, haidate etc for tp
adaberk, heca etc for ws