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    Do Races Have Hidden Stats?

    Unlike my previous post which was giving information (rather ideas) this one is a serious question that I've wondered ever since I started playing this game... Sometimes I don't know if its freak chance but playing all the different races in the game I've noticed a few differences.

    As a Hume with decent gear all my jobs were pretty solid.

    As a Galka I took the least amount of visible dmg out of any of other race (on WAR) and what confuses me is that supposedly VIT has diminishing returns according to the testers.

    Elvaan and Mithra are just broken at everything they do and are pretty hax.

    Tarutaru seem to excel in anything that uses INT and I notice my steal rate is also better on a Taru and actually do decent Gust Slashes compared to Mithra or Elvaan for example...

    Now of course this could all be attributed to their base stats, but I've wondered if since so many items in the game have hidden effects, is it possible that maybe the base races have hidden stats as well?

    Also do you believe that your beginning choice in the starting nations have anything to do with these hidden stats if they exist? For example I can swear that my kitty had hidden enmity merits cause on NIN I never had a problem holding hate against DRKs, and even MNK and SAM which I was like "how the hell am I holding hate against that kinda damage"...

    If you guys have any good tests or actually have the equipment to "lab" to test this idea out I'd appreciate any knowledge.

    P.S I really think personally that there are lots of hidden stats aside from weapon/armor such as the ones proven such as mining, harvesting, etc. and back in the day I don't know if you guys remember but supposedly a GM had the ability to make your drop rates go to shit... Then again it could have been GM Dave jokes getting me confused with reality but either way I'd appreciate some good knowledge and/or tests!

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    No.

    In other words, proof or GTFO.

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    i guss thats wy i hit hardr than tarutau

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeh View Post
    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya View Post
    No.

    In other words, proof or GTFO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa View Post
    No.
    Well since everyone was pretty much saying the same thing all I can say is I have no proof other than simple observations... Also I don't have parsers and don't really know where to get em.

    Just simply I would like to test it myself but have no way... Hence the question lol

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    Well we do know that galka can eat raw meat and mithra can eat raw fish, but other than that... I dunno

    Though I have noticed my tarutaru has a lot of hate when it comes to provoke. As a ninja I pulled with shuriken and ran back to pt for a mithra ninja to voke off of me while I waited for utsu recast (generallyhad 10-15 secs left on counter)

    For some reason though, even after having on average 1-2 of my shadows taken out otw back, so I had even lower hate, my vokes almost alway topped hers. Even one voke alone would occasionally require her to voke and WS to get hate off for like 2 shadows then it would go right back to me.

    I had 0 idea why.

    But no, I don't think races have any actual hidden stats/effects, except maybe emnitty, but thats not very hidden, just more not told.

    Also, Tarus are very dextrous and have nice chr. We make excellent thieves, dancers, and bards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    Well we do know that galka can eat raw meat and mithra can eat raw fish, but other than that... I dunno

    Though I have noticed my tarutaru has a lot of hate when it comes to provoke. As a ninja I pulled with shuriken and ran back to pt for a mithra ninja to voke off of me while I waited for utsu recast (generallyhad 10-15 secs left on counter)

    For some reason though, even after having on average 1-2 of my shadows taken out otw back, so I had even lower hate, my vokes almost alway topped hers. Even one voke alone would occasionally require her to voke and WS to get hate off for like 2 shadows then it would go right back to me.

    I had 0 idea why.

    But no, I don't think races have any actual hidden stats/effects, except maybe emnitty, but thats not very hidden, just more not told.

    Also, Tarus are very dextrous and have nice chr. We make excellent thieves, dancers, and bards.
    FUCKING NO NO NO NO

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    Yes, races have hidden stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corruption View Post
    blah blah blah I'm lazy and looking for agreement
    Google "ffxi parser".

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    LOL Fest /sigh

    Well I was actually hoping someone would really come with something valuable... A test or some data of older testing or something. I guess not so I'll be done with this post and resume else where...

    Thanks for nothing I guess lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corruption View Post
    Thanks for nothing I guess lol
    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya View Post
    Google "ffxi parser".
    You can't quote something if its not a real quote... The correct term would be "paraphrase" biotch lol

    Ok now seriously I'm done here have fun guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeh View Post
    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
    /sigh... My thoughts exactly. This is Pandora's Box, and not the little one, but the awesomely huge thing from FF8.

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    Guys, I think there might be microscopic organisms that cause disease. But I don't feel like bringing any proof or preliminary findings of my own because I don't know where to buy test tubes. Can someone else do the work for me? thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corruption View Post
    Unlike my previous post which was giving information (rather ideas) this one is a serious question that I've wondered ever since I started playing this game... Sometimes I don't know if its freak chance but playing all the different races in the game I've noticed a few differences.

    As a Hume with decent gear all my jobs were pretty solid.

    As a Galka I took the least amount of visible dmg out of any of other race (on WAR) and what confuses me is that supposedly VIT has diminishing returns according to the testers.

    Elvaan and Mithra are just broken at everything they do and are pretty hax.

    Tarutaru seem to excel in anything that uses INT and I notice my steal rate is also better on a Taru and actually do decent Gust Slashes compared to Mithra or Elvaan for example...

    Now of course this could all be attributed to their base stats, but I've wondered if since so many items in the game have hidden effects, is it possible that maybe the base races have hidden stats as well?

    Also do you believe that your beginning choice in the starting nations have anything to do with these hidden stats if they exist? For example I can swear that my kitty had hidden enmity merits cause on NIN I never had a problem holding hate against DRKs, and even MNK and SAM which I was like "how the hell am I holding hate against that kinda damage"...

    If you guys have any good tests or actually have the equipment to "lab" to test this idea out I'd appreciate any knowledge.

    P.S I really think personally that there are lots of hidden stats aside from weapon/armor such as the ones proven such as mining, harvesting, etc. and back in the day I don't know if you guys remember but supposedly a GM had the ability to make your drop rates go to shit... Then again it could have been GM Dave jokes getting me confused with reality but either way I'd appreciate some good knowledge and/or tests!
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