Gardening? (ores, of course)

[Maguile]

Anyone know of any straightforward guides to gardening ores?

Ive been working on my bonecraft mule, and I thought I might start gardening as well. Anyone have any tips/experiences/suggestions/etc. for gardening?

[Guyverarmor]

Pikko Pots

Start there

[Theraven]

I used to garden ores a ton in 2005, but once I got a fulltime job I couldn't consistently log in on the correct in game days/moonphases to make it profitable enough. I found a nice guide (after I quit gardening, of course ) that was fairly in line with what I did but had a bunch of extra stuff (like glowrates) that I never paid attention to or got a chance to test. Saved the link in case I ever got the urge to try again, but I never have. It's from 2005, so who knows if the info is even valid anymore, or if changes have been made, but here it is, for whatever it's worth:

Ore Gardening

[Thistle]

Ore Gardening

Wow, that site has some info I've never heard before.

TIME A FULL MOON HARVEST THROUGH HARVESTING GEAR EXAMINES (to speed things up)

That's an interesting idea. I don't garden anymore (same thing, full time job = rough to garden), but that site has some interesting info...

[Zouri]

the last time i tried to garden an ore, i followed a guide and got about 40 stacks of windy tea leaves i was very dissapointed.

[Darte]

gardening ores got nerfed sometime back. What once used to yield 4-6 ores per 10 saplings now yields 1, maybe 2 if your extremely lucky ores.

Unless there is some super secret way of getting old ore rates, my old method of farming cuttings>grow saplings>grow ores isn't worth the time anymore :/

[vegetaa]

If you really want to garden as a money maker, your most reliable solution IMO :

- recipes that have a short growing time : if your crops die you only wasted a few growing days.
- recipes that yield a reliable amount of gil-making items : the more the better, of course.
- recipes that yield items you can sell fast : at AH, or even better, to NPCs.

Growing ores can be profitable because a couple good harvests will bump your income up...but in the long run it's not that good, especially since it has been nerfed.

[Acturus]

Gardening Ore is worthwhile because the maintanence is low (you plant, wait, feed, wait, feed, wait, harvest), but it's only a viable option if you can devote at least 10 mules to it. Ore has a 10-15% yield rate, offset by moonphase and other such annoying things.

Sapling recipes (the Ore yields) are useful to players who have more money than time, and can sit down for an hour 4 times a month and give a little attention to the plants. I use 26 mules on staggered growth cycle with 10 mules week 1, 8 week 2, and 8 week three. I keep an extra week wait time so that I can buy up saplings without butchering the AH for them and jacking the prices.

Wildgrass is the other "big" moneymaker for Gardening, or so I'm told, because of Chocofood and some worthwhile NPC sales. What you lose in laziness you make up for in quick turnaround. I'm told that Wildgrass recipes can have a better ROI than Saplings, but I'm not able to stay on top of my plants for 5 days at any time of day in order to capitalize on them.

[tymora]

One of my LS mates got banned for having 10+ mules growing ores.

-> Got flagged as a RMT. With 26 mules...you might want to self-declare to the STF that you are a perfectly normal player...

[barber2006]

One of my LS mates got banned for having 10+ mules growing ores.

-> Got flagged as a RMT. With 26 mules...you might want to self-declare to the STF that you are a perfectly normal player...

I had 5 accounts worth for several months, so 75 mules. All of them are still fine.

[Vryali]

I'm unsure how things sit on most servers, but at least on mine, just vendoring the junk adds up to between 30-45k (Depending on which elemental ore you do, I normally do Thunder Ore/Silver Leaves). Couple that with an ore or two (I tend to average about 2 ores per 10) and the fact that sapling prices I believe are around 70-80/stack and you have very clear and effortless profit.

[zantes]

For those that are interested, arcane flowerpots are actually worth the investment you growing ores. They add ~50% extra time but you'll get 2 ores per pot when you'd get an ore. They also give increased yield on the fail harvests.

[Vodou]

One of my LS mates got banned for having 10+ mules growing ores.

-> Got flagged as a RMT. With 26 mules...you might want to self-declare to the STF that you are a perfectly normal player...

No.

He may have been banned but it was not for this.

This is patently false in every sense of the term.

[barber2006]

For those that are interested, arcane flowerpots are actually worth the investment you growing ores. They add ~50% extra time but you'll get 2 ores per pot when you'd get an ore. They also give increased yield on the fail harvests.

Is it 2 ores per pot always? Or just a chance at 2?

[zantes]

Is it 2 ores per pot always? Or just a chance at 2?

With arcane flowerpots, I've always gotten 2 ores per pot.

[tymora]

No.

He may have been banned but it was not for this.

This is patently false in every sense of the term.

Might be he only logged in to check on pots due to lack of time for regular play.

[Vodou]

Might be he only logged in to check on pots due to lack of time for regular play.

I am totally not following your point. What does that have to do with being banned or getting flagged as RMT?

He did not get banned for having 10 mules or 26 mules with flower pots. He did not get banned for growing ores or having ores or growing saplings or having gil or sending gil to his mules or sending gil from his mules to his main account or being well off or only logging in to check plants or having only level 1 mules with no xp.

If he got banned it was for doing something that was against the TOS. He was not banned for doing stuff that:

1) lots of people did before, have done for a long long time, and still do and who don't get banned or suspended or jailed or warned

2) is exactly and completely how the game was designed (to have many mules and be able to grow lots of plants)

3) is so freakishly easy for SE to find and see for EVERYONE in the game that no one could ever get away with it.

He did not get banned for that.

If you beleive he was banned for that, you might want to spend a little time in a quiet room and think this through.

[Ruuz]

Just curious, have you ore gardeners found results change based on how often you check the plants? I tried Earth Ores once, but only got Kitrons, havent tried since. I could probably check once per day, but more than that is just too much.

[tymora]

He was specifically flagged and banned for RMT activity. It is probably a combination of factors to get flagged as so. (High/frequent gil transfers between characters, lack of play activity other than gardening/crafting...etc All of which can be RMT-ish but still be done by a regular player) He could simply be an unfortunate victim of an early RMT detection system.

AND, I am just putting up his case here as a gentle warning. None of us know exactly how the STF works. I don't think it would hurt you to do a some precautionary measures to avoid being banned for no good reason.

We all know what happened to the exploiters who claimed the STF won't touch them. (Not saying this is an exploit) And aren't several LS bank mules affected as well in the past couple of years? The STF does not have a perfect system going. I think this is clear to everyone.

Heed it if you will, ignore it if you want. Nothing may happen to you but don't come crying when something does.

[Day]

Tymora has claustrum. I listen to everything they say.

(That sounded like an insult, but it wasn't <3 BLM)