Nigerian massacre a result of religious violence or land disputes?

[Neosutra]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...Y_1zJIElU5F3QA

So forgive me if this has already been made a topic, but I have limited bandwidth and the search function takes 3 hours for me to use here..

I was reading up on current events and was looking at the details of these brutal killings/torture/attacks of christians on muslims and vice versa. I know we have 50,000+ dead in Haiti due to good ole mother nature (or alah/jesus if you walk that perverbial dog..), but the brutal human on human murder of men/woman/children, burning of people alive, and defiling of the bodies by christians/muslims just made me sick.

It seems that christians surrounded this one village and attacked muslims hiding in mosques/homes and murdered people attempting to escape, casting their bodies into wells and burning them alive. Muslims apparently were participating in similar acts of counterviolence.

From earlier reports, violence in this region between the religions have been recorded to be even worse than this incident, but have also been related to land (or perhaps land ownership by religious sect?).

Perhaps it is simply my bias on the subject, but can some people give me the standard "their behavior isnt characteristic of their religion so religion isnt to blame here" excuse, or can people admit that religion motivated these brutal killings by instigating violence and prejudice. Im looking for another way to percieve this beyond "wtf religion" and "fuck humanity".

[Wakabo]

Christians? What happen to Thou shalt not murder?

[Baelorn]

"fuck humanity"

Sounds good to me.

[Chicomagiko]

Its Africa(clusterfuck of a continent really). Greed for land corrupted their interpretation of bible verses leading them to violence? Fuck humanity indeed.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Africa is a giant pot of AIDS, political unrest, desertification, CAH galore, and overall pretty low human living conditions.

I'm just as surprised as you that something like this could happen.

[Kuya]

We went over Nigeria during my class once but i don't recall what happened there. As for the previous two posts (lol internet), Africa has so many problems particularly because the world powers (France, England and a couple of others, such as Italy) divided between eachother land in Africa without any regard for who was living there. So for example, they made a division right down an area that was an entire tribe leading to ungovernability in the future. Part of the problem Africa has is directly because of European colonization. The same was done to the Middle East and looking into the issue of the kurds is one solid example.

It's the same old story of white man claims property rights to the land of darkies, suddenly he 'gains a conscious', leaves the land of the darkies and then wonders why these people are so violent and unstable after fucking everything up. Haiti is another wonderful example. I swear the human psyche will do all it can to justify what it sees.

[Drex]

It's alright to do whatever you want as long as you claim you are doing it in God's name. You can even break the commandments! After all, what's a few lives here are there, there are billions more out there anyway right?

[Jodwahh]

We went over Nigeria during my class once but i don't recall what happened there. As for the previous two posts (lol internet), Africa has so many problems particularly because the world powers (France, England and a couple of others, such as Italy) divided between eachother land in Africa without any regard for who was living there. So for example, they made a division right down an area that was an entire tribe leading to ungovernability in the future. Part of the problem Africa has is directly because of European colonization. The same was done to the Middle East and looking into the issue of the kurds is one solid example.

It's the same old story of white man claims property rights to the land of darkies, suddenly he 'gains a conscious', leaves the land of the darkies and then wonders why these people are so violent and unstable after fucking everything up. Haiti is another wonderful example. I swear the human psyche will do all it can to justify what it sees.

Yeah every problem in the world is the white devils fault.

[Plow]

Neo, sometimes people just aren't worth keeping around and need to be killed off.


I'm sure you can understand.

[Kuya]

Yeah every problem in the world is the white devils fault.

Sarcasm aside, are you denying that imperialism has anything to do with Africa's current problems? I suppose you aren't, you just wanted to make a knee jerk comment without knowing anything.

[Jodwahh]

I'm well aware the european colonialism of the past is a part of the problem, but it's only one of many contributeing factors. Just saying that everything is the fault of white people leaving africa is denying a lot of deep seated tribal hatred that's been a part of africa for a long time.

[ZarakiKujata]

Fat guys pretending they are witches with demon hair is the cause of all of Africa's problems.

[Kuya]

I'm well aware the european colonialism of the past is a part of the problem, but it's only one of many contributeing factors. Just saying that everything is the fault of white people leaving africa is denying a lot of deep seated tribal hatred that's been a part of africa for a long time.

Part of the problem Africa has

Why did you even comment?

[Jodwahh]

Heaven forbid someone should make a sarcastic self deprecating comment on BG.

[Kuya]

That's not what self deprecating means.

[Tankjr]

So this was a bunch of Africans killing each other off? Where's the problem?

This is exactly the type of shit we pay taxes to have done, but they're doing it for us FOR FREE.

[Beckwin]

Neo: economic motivation, religious justification.

[QuePsiXI]

Obama's fault.

You pretend racists on here are the first ones who's ancestors raped a slave, so that you could bring a little more ass into the family genepool. You didn't want the whole black ass because that's just too much for you, so you let that one gene sit and spread, and offered your daughters to other white men. Now you praise these white girls on FoD.

True story. So until the All-American Basketball Association, Cuba Gooding Jr., white girl dancing, and Ivy League football all get really really popular/successful, shut the fuck up, you still need Africana.

[Not not Mattaru]

You pretend racists on here are the first ones who's ancestors raped a slave, so that you could bring a little more ass into the family genepool. You didn't want the whole black ass because that's just too much for you, so you let that one gene sit and spread, and offered your daughters to other white men. Now you praise these white girls on FoD.

True story. So until the All-American Basketball Association, Cuba Gooding Jr., white girl dancing, and Ivy League football all get really really popular/successful, shut the fuck up, you still need Africana.

I don't even know what this has to do with Nigerians killing each other.

On another note, most violence with a religious, ethnic, nationalist tinge to it is used as a justification to "redress" some real or perceived disparity. Nigeria is so fractious, has so many different languages and cultural groups, and has a ton of oil spread out! I have a feeling, and I am sure someone out there has done the research showing how such violence is tied to economic concerns.

[ZarakiKujata]

Obama's fault.

You pretend racists on here are the first ones who's ancestors raped a slave, so that you could bring a little more ass into the family genepool. You didn't want the whole black ass because that's just too much for you, so you let that one gene sit and spread, and offered your daughters to other white men. Now you praise these white girls on FoD.

True story. So until the All-American Basketball Association, Cuba Gooding Jr., white girl dancing, and Ivy League football all get really really popular/successful, shut the fuck up, you still need Africana.

Pretty erroneous since I'd wager a fair number of the white posters are descendants of people who werent even in the country when slavery was legal.