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  • I merited enmity +

    168 38.53%
  • I merited enmity -

    69 15.83%
  • I did not touch enmity merits

    187 42.89%
  • I merited + AND - enmity to spite SE

    12 2.75%
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  1. #1
    Relic Horn
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    Did you merit enmity?

    Simple question - just curious on the general average. My feeling is that many people have + enmity merited and only a few - enmity.

  2. #2
    Every day I'm wafflin'
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    Fenrir

    Did -enmity because I'm a mage perfectionist.

  3. #3
    Nidhogg
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    I didn't touch enmity merits until Kaeko's enmity testing. After that all came out, I reasoned that if someone wanted both enmity+ for tank job and enmity- for DD job, that going the enmity- route would be more beneficial overall, so that's what I meritted.

    For one, if you ignore the enmity cap, enmity- on DD is superior to equal parts enmity+ on tanks. For instance, compared to both groups being at enmity +/-0, if you give a tank enmity+50 and keep DD at -0, then a DD can do 50% more damage without pulling hate. If you keep tank at +0 and give the DD -50, they can do twice as much as their previous damage without pulling hate.

    Then if you consider the hate cap, as long as the tank can stay capped (and it seems that other things than enmity+ stats are important to this), the only thing that really matters at that point from a DD perspective is their own -enmity, because it directly increases the amount of damage they can do while staying below the cap. If a tank stays capped with enmity+0, then giving them enmity+50 does nothing, but giving a DD enmity -50 has the same effect as in the above case where the cap isn't considered.

    This is just my reasoning, anyway. I don't mean to say that I think people are wrong for doing +enmity. After all, we're talking about +/-4, not +/-50 lol

  4. #4
    Fishing Guru
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    did -4 asap since i was/am a career blm. I then leveled rdm and rng, so it helps both of those jobs as well.

  5. #5
    You wouldn't download a car
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    Quetzalcoatl

    I did +enmity back when I used NIN alot, but took them off recently now that my active jobs are mainly melee DD. Instead of doing -enmity I did -% enemy crit rate

  6. #6
    Relic Weapons
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    Ragnarok

    enmity+, its more important for me to be able to get hate when im tanking, -enmity wont save me on a dd job unless i have loads of it which isnt gunna happen really, just imo~

  7. #7
    assburgers
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    +Enmity, I'm not a bitchWar, I like my hate and my voke macro is rubbed smooth, added bonus that I am leveling Pld atm.

  8. #8
    Melee Summoner
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    I didn't touch them: lving PLD atm, but I think I'll throw my merits in crits+ and spell interruption down instead of enm+ or enm-, since I got some mages @75.

  9. #9
    Campaign
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    Stormrage

    did +4 enmity, since i got both pld and nin 75

  10. #10
    E. Body
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    Shiva

    +4ENM Merits here, WHM BRD NIN WAR lol

  11. #11
    Relic Shield
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    Shiva

    +4ENM, I tank on PLD RDM and NIN. BLM SCH and SMN just have to suck it up and learn to take a hit(Terra's, Jelly Ring, Cheviot Cape).

  12. #12
    E. Body
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    Caitsith

    I originally had 4/4 Enmity Down and 4/4 Crit Rate, to which I replaced Enmtiy Down with Spell Interuption, since I wanted to level NIN. In retrospect, should have just done Spell interuption and I would a saved myself merits. =/

  13. #13
    I Am, Who I Am.
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    Trixi Sephyuyx
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    - for BLM and BST

  14. #14
    Salvage Bans
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    Vigilia Dulaurier
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    Asura

    Haven't touched Enmity. I contemplated for a while about doing 4/4 +enmity but at the end of the day I'm like the last person in the LS with 75PLD who gets asked to come as PLD so never needed them yet. And tbh I'm not that fussed about playing PLD, I enjoy my mage jobs far more so no merits either way serves all situations.

  15. #15
    Relic Weapons
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    Bismarck

    Grifter told me not too so I merited enemy crit rate down instead -_-

    Wasn't too bad with most our tanks. cept Silencer, he was always a hate whore

  16. #16
    Ninja Ninja
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    Noemi Rondain
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    I merited Enmity+ because Enmity- gear for Whm is a lot easier to come by and is cheaper than Enmity+ gear for Nin

  17. #17
    Ive sucked 27 dicks, in a row.
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    I had initially done 4 +crit, 2 -enmity, 2 spell interrupt, but I took out the -enmity when I started tanking Salvage on MNK.

    The other character I play (75PLD 75NIN) has 4 +enmity, and I'm not touching them even if he ends up with a DD job or two.

  18. #18
    Jem
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    Claustrum. Really?
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    Kaith Laqueus
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    Haven't touched them. Job spread is COR, DRK, PLD. At the minute I have them in crit hits and enemy crit hit rate. Been contemplating putting them in +enmity for PLD but as of yet they're untouched.

  19. #19
    Puppetmaster
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    Carbuncle

    +4 enm, pld drk and blu never get to use pld much but makes drk and blu fun.

  20. #20
    Salvage Bans
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    Silvermoon

    didn't touch them- rdm/whm/blm/brd/bst/pld, of which pld is the gimpest so no much point meriting +enm for it really.

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